946. - Kareem Rahma

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Chris Black coming to you from beautiful, sunny Los Angeles. I mean, it's bright today, Jason. We won. It's up before noon. that's feels that feels like a blessing for both of us it really boosts my my overall happiness level for the day when it's when you wake up and a little sun coming through hit that hit that side light hit the light from the side as well as from the bike it really helps with that um yeah my my rhythms yeah i know how you do it um i mean we're getting Breaking news, Carlos Akra has withdrawn from Wimbledon, his wrist injury. Do you think, Jason, this wrist injury was from popping his little booty on the cover of Vanity Fair or from playing tennis? Can we be sure that it happened on the court? Who were we just talking? Oh, we were just talking to Rostam. He was talking about prioritizing his wrist strength from the pull-up bar because of his cello playing and his oboe work. Of course. You know, so, I mean, we read the note that Al Karaz wrote. to sinner which was very bizarre and he should one of the most you should pull out from tennis in you know just period i think he wants to pull out he's getting pegged like playboy cardi is what it sounds like to me i i mean i i was just like this is at once cucked but also homoerotic but also esl it had so many cool elements to it that it was it was fun to read because every word was just going to be a surprise you have no idea what is coming next kind of similar to like the the hypnotic

cadence of a donald trump tweet where every other turn and corner is a new incorrect way of speaking the language that you are the president of but my my theory yesterday when i was uh when i was taking a look since he's sidelined he's injured his pr team is like hey you know they gotta run these people like businesses if they're if we're not making money year over year if we're not increasing shareholder growth then uh you might as well just quit tennis there's no point let i mean somehow naomi osaka keeps playing but that's a different pod but i think that you know they maybe they were stirring up a little challenger style homo erotic you know creating a little bit of beef that also has you know some cum involved as well some horniness because alcaraz they're they're making him into like a like a bossy bottom like hottie But you know that him and Sinner are both like virgins, you know? Yeah, he's... Which kind of helps their vibe. Yeah, I think I was going to say. I think that like when you're this good at something, unless it's like the 80s and you're doing coke and having prostitutes come to the hotel in Monaco, you're not... These guys are... Alcaraz is not even allowed to jack off. No. He has like a... There's an app attached to his whoop strap. No, he puts... When he lays into bed and plugs in to charge overnight, there's no... There are no women or men in the vicinity. looking for anything else except maybe some electrolytes or some green powders what do you what do you think his punishment is from his team his coaching team if he does in fact you know achieve orgasm or even an erection no i mean i think when the rumors were circulating that like brooks nader and him were i i think i think they were probably taking him into the into the training room and kind of slapping his ass and back with a big rubber band, you know, a resistance band. Right, right, right. The big one, though. Yeah, I think there's certain points, or throwing a really heavy medicine ball at him and see if he can catch it. Carly, yeah. He said, not the four-incher, not the four-inch band. That one's too big. I just don't know. This is all too much because there's a lot of good, I mean, okay, so Jacob Elordi pulled out of Cannes.

due to injury as well and and then he was spotted on the beach with kendall jenner in hawaii on like a little double date with with timothy and uh and and kylie i think they were all together and people were like oh he didn't want to he didn't want to go to italy and watch a bunch of bad movies he wanted to go kendall jenner in hawaii i think he made the right choice and i think that what is most interesting is that jacob alorty and kendall jenner both look like lesbians What is the, what is the, like, do you think that this is, I think it's a real romance, but I do think that the timing and looks are interesting. I think they can just have fun as friends. Also, Jacob Bellordi doesn't have a film in Cannes. I don't think he's currently promoting. No, he was going to be, he was going to be like a judge. He had some sort of like ceremonial duty that he was supposed to do. Okay. Which is something that you have to do in his position to sort of- Play the game. Keep everybody happy. Yeah, exactly. Keep everybody, because you're going to have a film soon. Right, right, right. He said, I'm still riding the Wuthering Heights wave right now. Let me just keep collecting this head for another 18 months, and then we could focus on the next project. Actually, speaking of that film, I was on the airplane with Carolyn a couple weeks ago when we were going to Europe. She was like, oh, hell yeah. Wuthering Heights is on Delta. And I said, okay, have fun. And 16 minutes into the film, she was crying. She cried through the whole thing. Crying? Yeah. I didn't think it was that kind of thing. I didn't think so either, but she, I think it was, I mean, obviously the airplane effect in terms of your emotions, but she wasn't feeling it. In the Punani. She was feeling it in the heartstrings. I'll never know. Carolyn, I know you're listening to this right now. I apologize. I would say in advance, but this has already all happened, and I'm sorry about that. I think Alex watched that on the plane, too, but I don't know if she cried. But, I mean, Alex. Let's give her a call. Alex, did you cry watching Wuthering Heights? She said no, just horny.

That's my girl. Never change, Alex. Yeah, never change. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Okay, sorry. Okay, so back to Elordi. He's on the beach in Hawaii with Kendall Jenner. I believe that Kendall Jenner is just kind of like an asexual being. Like she just sort of, she's like an alien. she does engage in sex somehow but it's not like the way that like human mortals do on planet earth it's just like a new she just like hovers over somebody and steals their she's too she's too hot yeah it's i i don't know what's going on there but i feel like this is a powerful move for them regardless of reality do you think that they're this is a friendly thing or a romantic thing No, I think it's a romantic thing. I mean, I think, I mean, I think it's like these people sort of, I think these people sort of end up together in these situations because they really are at that point where it's like, all right, well, I can't date another basketball player because they're just going to, they're losers who cheat on me. And Jacob Elordi's like, she's hot. Bad Bunny's gay. Bad Bunny's gayer than me. Yeah. And Jacob Elordi's like, she's so hot. You know, it's like, there's no, there's no, everybody wins. You know what I mean? This is cool for everybody. I went to Kauai with her. She's so fucking fit, mate. No, look, she can really drink. I was impressed. She's built like a centaur. She's bad, bro. Non-derogatory way. Well, who do you think is getting more action from this fake relationship between the stars? We got Elordian Jenner or Gerber and Shane. Doing their double date, wearing their oxblood Chanel bags to Matsuhisa. I think it's the perfect crime because Kendall Jenner's dating. Sounds like an action Bronson bar. I mean, excuse me, Kaya Gerber's dating a regular hot guy who doesn't really want to do this kind of stuff, I feel like. He seems to, as a child. Doesn't want to go to, doesn't want to eat lunch. I don't think he wants to be chased down the street. you know i think he's a little more i think because he was he was he's like a real actor who was raised in the spotlight by a beloved

you know, father who's an actor. I feel like it's a little bit like, you know what? Go out with your gay homies. You and I will go to Mexico. We hang at the house, but I'm not playing these games. And Jake Shane, you know, the little leprechauns are ready to tap his heels together and go to any high-end sushi eatery. He's wearing the library science hat, Kaya and Alyssa's book club, which I am very supportive of. They're going, but they have the matching Chanel bags. It feels, I'm starting to come around on Jake Shane because, and I don't like to do this because this feels like a, TJ style move but but I think Jake Shane is I think Jake Shane is playing a longer game than we realize and he's able because of his small size he's able to take the heat and it's only benefiting him and I think he's like bitch put me over the he's he he's like spit roast me over the flame Francis I can handle this so you and it's only up in my bank account so Jake Shane is 5d chess jester maxing is that what you're saying he's he's jester maxing on a level that we in a way that kendall jenner has intercourse jake shane is doing a a troll that is going over the heads of some of our our brightest minds on planet earth i just think it's gone i think it's gone so far that that's the only answer i can come back to what it will okay well i guess the law this the long game of of the shortest guy in town i want to know what what exactly is the troll No, I guess troll maybe is the wrong word. I'm saying I think he's playing a game that is where people hate him, but it is greatly benefiting him, and his star only seems to be rising, is my point. Okay, so he's Spencer Pratting. He's playing the villain, or he's playing the punching bag, I guess. Yeah, I think it's more of that, where he's like, whatever, man. I'm at Matsuhisa with the baddest chicks. What are you doing? Like, I don't know. I keep my shit. Kylie Jenner's on my couch talking about, you know, fucking how to like reset your brain chemistry, you know, and you guys are broke. You can't even afford Chick-fil-A. And he's doing, and he's selling Amazon ads against the whole town. Yeah, like he's cashing in. He's a winner. And that's, I don't love to say that, but he's a winner. And I think we're all the losers here. And I'm just going to come around fully on him.

I'm just going to come. Now I'm supporting him. I'm team Jake. You know that film Little Women? They redid it a few years ago. A classic tale. We need to recast it. It'll be a Sandlot style film called Little Winners starring Jake Shane playing the... We could have him and the guy... If they redid the Sandlot starring Jake Shane and a bunch of other children... That's actually a good idea. Also, we could get the guy... Now, what's the guy that looks like a kid from Stranger Things? The real fucked up... All of them. galen i think is his name in real life no joke south african energy to him bro your name is galen bro i'm sorry you gotta start over all right We got a guest today. Our good friend and friend of yours, Kareem Hrama, is here joining us. He has just released some other shit. I can't keep up. This guy's putting out shit every fucking day. You think we're consistent? This guy's running laps around us. He's got Adam Faze in a sweatshop somewhere with 15 MacBook Pros. If you thought Anthony Bourdain discussed the diaspora of the immigrant story, just wait till you check this fucking shit out. Kareem is a dear friend. The hottest bitch in town in terms of your feed, so let's give him a jingle. He does have his wife's headphones, and she probably gave them to him begrudgingly because she's mad at him for something, and we're about to find out. We're about to find out. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen.

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What was his name in the little fat red hand? He'd have to be the catcher, you said? Yeah. I mean, I think that would work based on his sexual proclivities, but I mean, I think that being... You're saying because he wouldn't have... His name was Ham. He wouldn't have to squat because he wouldn't have to squat to be behind the plate. Jake Shane kind of is giving Ham, I will say. You play ball like a girl. He's got his body... No, Jake Shane's got his body tight. I don't want to... I'm not trying to be on his jock, but I see the selfies he takes at the aloe gym right down the... the street from where i am right now and he's looking good shoulders are kind of big the abs are coming in i'm not gonna let i'm not gonna let you guys play with his body really i'm not gonna let you play with his body He's buff. I mean, when you're small, getting buff is a tough thing because you don't want to look like a meatball. You know what I mean? It's harder when you're tall to get buff. I hate to step in and correct you. Well, I don't think you're trying that hard, but I do agree. Did we already talk about the fact that Jason's not wearing a shirt? He does this all the time, especially with male guests. No, I just got out of the sauna watching your episode in the sauna. I just took a cold schvitz. in the shower and my body is still you know like the post sweat sauna thing so if i put a shirt on it would just get all wet and nasty kareem only only sweats when one of his subjects is give is not giving him the answer he wants so he doesn't know he doesn't he doesn't know it's an audio podcast so you know it's fine it's it's it's uh that's so you watched it in the sauna yeah wow i thought that you're not supposed to do that you're not supposed to do what watch guys in the sauna in the sauna Infrared saunas have little holders for your iPad. You've never been in an infrared sauna? No, dude. I'm fucking normal. I thought since you lived in Long Island City, you would have room for one, but you don't have one. I'm fucking normal. I go to the Belarusian bathhouse where guys hit me. Exactly. Like a regular American. I'm a normal guy. Salt of the earth. Okay, well, they have these things called saunas that are infrared. They came out about 10 years ago, and millions and millions of people use them every day. It's not really that rare.

I'm looking what? Stop everything. I'm looking what? You're looking a little tan. Well, I'm actually in the country. And that's not a comment on race. That's not a comment on race. I just mean it looks like you've been outside. Even for an Egyptian guy, you look pretty tan. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure you noticed my scruffy beard a little tan. I'm in the country right now. Did you buy the house? i did i'm in the country house right now okay kentucky are you the first egyptian guy to ever buy a country house be honest uh i think i am i mean i'm definitely in the country like if i if i live in cairo where's my country house you know what i'm saying because there's what's the connecticut of egypt the connecticut of egypt Probably, I don't know, Azerbaijan, something like that. I don't know. Well, they have so many little weird... Something Balkan? They have all these weird towns in Egypt. There's a new Cairo and there's also a new Egypt. Really? They're trying to build these little Dubais in Egypt because Cairo is so overpopulated and old world that they're like, okay, this is... No, they have new capital, new Cairo, and new Egypt. which are all little dubais look i raised a lot of new capital this quarter as well but so you're saying there's a city called new capital and it's the capital city it's not actually i mean they wanted that's the thing they want they wanted to move the capital there But it's not working. It's not working. And no one's going there. But there's these little Dubais. But I guess that's kind of the country. This is a great idea. Because I've been thinking about this a lot. How there's things that have hit the tipping point. And there's no way of fixing these issues. Like one of them being like... The Met Gala. The Met Gala is so fucked out. Coachella is so fucked out. Now, Weekend 2 is better than Weekend 1. We need a second Met Gala for regular people and one for influencers. You need a Cairo for the tourists and the Cairo for y'all. The people that live there. How Dubai are we talking? Should we go there? No, because no one moves. Everyone's like, why would I move to this?

place when Cairo's live. Are there high-end hotels? Yeah, it's like high-end hotels, high-end skyscrapers. It's beautiful, but no one's there. It's a ghost town. Oh, so it's like Dubai. Got it. So you haven't paid to put any of your family up there? That's crazy. You haven't bought any of your family or anything? They don't want to go, bro. We got the apartment in old Cairo. Okay. Is that available on Airbnb or do I have to go through you direct to book? Just go direct. I thought you said you sold your family. I was watching your show. You said you sold a family apartment in Egypt and it was the worst decision you've ever made in your life? It's the worst. It's still my biggest regret. Probably my only regret. Why'd you sell it? Why'd you sell it to self-produce some more bullshit? Come on, man. No, I was a young man. I was a young man. My father had just passed away. And I was like, my way of grieving was like, let me get rid of all this shit. And let me get rid of this house. And let me get this money so that I can get my mom a better. Because she didn't like that apartment. oh so i was like let me see i see okay so we got a new apartment which obviously lacks charm and character because oh i see you're saying you you had a you had the sick old old cairo pad with all the charm you got a new build you got the horizontal gentrifier fence no ac fans only is your mom i i thought okay is your mom there all the time No, but my mom is currently in Cairo. She's been there for like two months or three months. So does she do the classic immigrant mom, like I go there for six months at a time type shit? We've been saying goodbye to my grandma for 15 years. And she just, she just is, she's so tight. See you next year, motherfucker. She's a hundred. She's like, I don't need AC pussy. Bring me some hot tea. Like doesn't, yeah. Hot tea doesn't work out. Never worked out. Like she just is vibing. Does she still smoke? No, she doesn't still. what's her secret is she is she saffron maxing is she taking supplements what's her stack she just kicked dude she just kicks it i think i think she's kind of on that like the less you like your heart only has a certain number of beats in it like a battery and she's like i'm i'm i'm holding them okay dashboard confessional she's been so state she's been she's been so stationary for so long

that he has saved up quite a bit of that honestly i like this theory this is like the theory when like someone like keith richards like he can't quit so this is an old school but low miles yeah old school low miles yeah that's no it's slammed it's got switches when you see like a 1989 cutlass supreme convertible with like 40 000 miles and you're like it's it's like 25k and you're like actually it's probably 40k and you're kind of like might be worth it also i i regret to inform you that last time i was on the pod we talked about cars so let's just get out of this right now did we really we talked about your volvo because you're white maxing we were talking about We're talking about, I'm the whitest Egyptian guy in the world, dude. Connecticut. Bro, you're whiter than me, and that's saying a lot, because I just have a little bit of residual flavor for being from Atlanta. Yeah, if Chris started praying to Allah, he could take your chain, and you would have to let him. Yeah, no problem. Chris Black announces. conversion to islam all right why okay just tell us about this house because we talked about it a little bit what are we working with do we have to renovate what do you how's the yard is there a pool how close is the well yeah we're the the well the well where you go you gather water for your family every morning from no the well is like pumps water into the house i don't here's the thing i am cosplaying I'm just fucking with you. I'm assuming you don't grab buckets of water. Oh, that was racism, right? You were being like, oh, he's from Egypt. That was countryism. I'm fucking around. Now I'm fucking around. Well, I mean, your people do love gathering water with buckets, but that's a whole other pod. Half the guess on how long gone. Why don't you go into the little Nile in your backyard and start paying for gold? Little Nile. You're going to name your next kid that. That's a good restaurant, man. That's a good restaurant. Don't go to the Little Nile Pop-Up. Little Nile Pop-Up at Bistro Ha. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that. These are some flavors from where I'm from. A lot of pomegranate seeds. Okay, sorry.

The fellas are in full effect today. I like this. Everyone's zoomed it up. I get horny for immigrant stories. It ain't just you. It ain't just you. All right. So tell us about the crib because we talked about this a little bit. I knew you were I knew maybe you weren't in escrow, but I knew you were sniffing around out there. I was sniffing. I've been sniffing and I've been wanting this for 15 years ever since I moved to New York because I always hear these people that are like. I've been in New York, but we spend the weekends in Connecticut or upstate. And I was like, oh, this is how you really survive. This is how you stay for 30 or 40 years. This is how you raise kids. You've got to get the upstate or country house or beach house if you're a loser. If you're a loser, you get the beach house. If you're cool, you get the country house. That kind of person would go to the Hamptons, right? Nasty work. Disgusting. I've never been, and I don't want to go. It's not for people like us. No, no. We're too chill. chilling cool feed me readers it's for people like me but i don't get the invite and that's the problem so maybe it ain't for me well put the trip together player put a trip together i mean i'm working on it anyway all right so you actually so you this was your this is your martha stewart dream this is my american dream baby and now i mean i don't want to break any news here but i mean this is when did you move in who did your move did you post about it and i missed it like how is it which vogue covered it um I'm organic here. I'm organic. You're organic. Did you pay? You paid for your own movers. You're the first guy with followers to pay for his own move. There was no move. There's nothing to move. Oh, you're just starting from. This is a country. This is not my home. This is like, this is my second home. Okay. So it's not a fixer upper per se, but it needs work. So it's old. It's like 200 years old. Two. Okay. You didn't answer my question. Is there a pool? There's no pool. Okay, so what am I supposed to do when I come visit you? I'm in the lawn right now. I'm digging. I'm digging. I just started digging with a shovel. I just, yeah, I'm doing it denial way. I'm digging it myself. Would you, do you want to add? Hopefully someone's filming this. Do you want to add a pool?

of course i want to add a pool do you have space do you have space for a pool of course i have space for a pool okay how big is the girl how many how many how many whips how many old schools can you park in the garage it's it's a it's a it's only a two-car garage but i'm thinking about leaving the regular car outside putting a riding lawnmower in one stall and then like a saab convertible like an old sob conversion well i like this but my my follow-up question is where is the the gym and editing bay going to go then brother is that that's brother it's early okay i'm just trying to think about everything before we get the architect going so i'm in the attic right now which is where my podcast studio which is where the podcast studio will go okay uh and then and then the other side of the attic will be the gym Okay. But the biggest problem I'm having right now, and I just bought a weed whacker, which was an amazing purchase, but I accidentally sent it to Brooklyn. I was really looking forward to weed whacking today or yesterday, but now it's in Brooklyn. I have an infestation of something called Japanese knotweed. Japanese knotweed is what they're smoking on over there because it's so illegal. So I'm trying to get rid of this patch. Japanese knotweed. It's invasive. Okay. Did the previous owner have to disclose this before purchase? No. Big surprise. I don't like that. I would like to get some money back on that. It's a perennial plant in the buckwheat family. Fucking buckwheat. I bet you can eat it, Jason. Probably so, yeah. I'm sorry about it. So is the weed whacker gas powered or electric? It's electric simply because I don't like the smell and sound of gas. But listen to this. I had the greatest compliment of my life yesterday. My neighbors, who are 80 years old and have lived on the road for 40 years, They stopped by and they said, just want you to know we love what you've been doing with the lawn. And I was like, wow, people are noticing the new neighbor. I was really hoping they were going to say we love Charlize on subway takes, but I guess we can't win them all. They know nothing. So they're cool with you, even though you're not white, and they don't know that you're kind of big online. We love what you've been doing with Somber on the subway. It's wonderful. It's a very liberal joint. So I think either they are pretending that they like me because they have to keep up the thing, which is possible.

Because you're the first brown person to move into the neighborhood in decades. They're like, now, did you dig a well? Are you getting buckets from the river in the backyard? You could bring us some. We're kind of old. Don't bring those mosquitoes over here now. Nile virus. They're afraid of Nile virus. So how good are you at bushwhacking? How are you going to take down this problem plant? One to ten, how's your whack? I don't know yet. I'm waiting for the freaking, I'm waiting for the damn. weed whacker but i do have this guy that i employ named victor and the reason that the lawn looks so good is because i pay victor 100 a week to mow the lawn that's a lot of grass it's a lot of grass how big is what's the acreage on the lot size if you don't mind we got 10 baby 10 acres we got 10 baby is there a water feature uh there's there's a there is a river runs through it okay can you fish it or no No, it's like it's more of a crick. Thank you for saying that properly. That's impressive. It's more of a crick. A northerner usually doesn't know those kind of terms, so I'm impressed that you know that. Oh, no, I think a northerner uses that. A little crick. I don't know. I don't know if Minnesotans are using the word crick the way that maybe the southern... people are it does feel southern but the north and the south are very similar they're very similar places are you pulling any crawdads out of that I don't think I think there's always when are we coming over for a classic seafood boil how much newspaper I'll bring a bunch of old New York Times from the city we can spread them out on the table do Egyptians have something similar to a seafood boil we yeah there's like a it's more like just like a fish Fiesta. Unfortunately, that's Latin and Mexican culture. Like mariscos? I don't know what that is. Like a birthday party in a park in LA where there's 20 people in chairs? That's Spanish for fish fiesta. Oh, okay, yeah. It's like you just get a bunch of fish and you just grill it up. There's a specific way. You can go to Ebukir, which I'm sure you've heard about in New York City. Get some of the best fish in the city. Okay, I want to come to Connecticut for an Egyptian feast on a summer's eve. You know what I mean? Sun setting. That would be beautiful. Kareem's got the wife beater on at the grill.

We're listening to some war on drugs or something. You know what I mean? Miller lights are flowing. You got some cool seasonings in the Mac salad, probably. That's nice. You got the Bahrat seasoning in there. I'm imagining it, but I do think I need to build the pool. I was going to build the pool this year, but I think I owe taxes for last year. I'm one of those guys. Don't we all? But wait, before we continue, I'd like to shout out Sabai for the free couch. and floyd for the free bed frames so by s-a-b-a-i did you do any posting for floyd detroit uh not yet but they did supply me with so so to your point i didn't pay anyone to do the move because there was nothing to move yeah but i did get two beds okay frames As well as four couches. Four? You got four Sabay's in the crib? I got four Sabay's in the crib. You couldn't, I guess, what, the cloud couch was out of budget, so you had to hit Sabay's tight. Yeah, Sabay got robbed on their time slot at Rolling Loud this year. I was upset about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Sabay couches, they range, looks like they're around the $3,000 to $4,000 range. Not cheap. Leather, linen, cotton. Recycled cotton linen. Okay, so it's an appropriate Connecticut sort of style couch. I'm going with an old, like a French countryside looking joint. I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are. That's what I think of when I think of you. With can on the mind, how could you not? I am white, dude. I'm white aspiring. I know. I want to be a wasp. I'm a brown wasp. The elusive brown wasp. That's what they call me in these parts, the brown wasp. You're a new species. Yeah, why aren't you at Cannes? I feel like you should be there. Did you turn it down? I'm only invited to the Lions. Oh, you don't get to go to the real shit. I don't get to go to the Jordan Firstman one. Yeah, well, how do you feel about Jordan Firstman selling his movie for $15 million? You can be honest. I'm happy. Do you think that paves the way for curly-headed guys like you guys?

Because you guys do have similar hair. What do you mean by guys like you exactly, Chris? I'm not saying Kareem's on GHB right now. I'm just saying you guys do have similar hair, and I think that's representation. It's like if Jason Statham wins an Oscar, that's big for me. You know what I mean? Okay, so I see what you're saying. So in the gay body classification, Kareem and Jordan, they would likely be lumped in the same. zone i think possibly due to facial hair and and and head hair not body though not body he's much more fit so there's so there's a bear there's a cub there's an otter and then there's a brown wasp i guess we're adding to yeah the brown wasp is a new a new a new kind but you don't oh i thought you maybe okay i thought maybe you would go you know i can't because i feel like i see you everywhere you're popping up you're making too much money clearly i'm not Kareem, don't play broke. I'm saying I am one of those stories of someone that had one good year and now... All of my wages from this year are going towards last year's taxes. Let me tell you something, bro. Look, you got to stop paying taxes. You got to stop the ban. You got to stop paying for stuff. Stop paying for it. Don't come out of pocket for anything. Make Ian pay for it. Make somebody else pay for it. Make Adam Faze pay for it. He can get money from somebody. Make somebody. You should not be. The number one rule when you start getting paper is don't pay for shit yourself. That's what they told me. That's what they told me. Who's they? You got too much money going out. You got a lot coming in. You got to keep it. You got too much motion. You got too much motion. Somebody else will pay for it. Who told you this? Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, exactly. Famous Peter Thiel told me, never pay for it with your own money unless it's a hot tub. Very smart with his finances. Can you explain this to me? I understand how to get the couch and the bed. No, honestly, they say, I've been told this before, that once you're doing it, there's always somebody, like Glenn Powell didn't pay for his sauce brand himself. He was paired with an investor, thanks to his CAA family, and they...

moved on it. Selena Gomez ain't putting in for Rare Beauty. Hailey Bieber probably ain't putting up any cash for Road. Do not invest in yourself. Yeah, investing in yourself is a lie. That's what white people are for. Investing in yourself is a lie. I see a Tiny Gun music video. I'm like, Kareem lost 10K on this. Who paying for that? i did lose i did lose money that's what i'm saying you can't do stuff like this don't do that you do the stuff that makes money have the hot asian guy chewie.com could have paid for that video you play your cards right the hot asian guy the hot asian guy you got running your business Make him, bro, make him go find money for it. We can always find money to pay for Kareem shit. Kareem ain't got to pay himself. That's so funny. This is so funny. And maybe you're right. You think Amelia's paying for her shit? Amelia ain't paying for nothing. Amelia, somebody's paying for her shit, bro. If your little subway show is all filmed on the meta glasses instead of hiring like eight DPs that you have to fucking pay their fucking insurance for and shit. Yeah, when I sit down and see these fucking non-binary DPs on the subway, I know they're all getting paid. There's four of them, bro. You'll get in trouble if you don't pay these DPs. That shit is one angle. They could go be a barista and make more money. Zuckerberg wants to give you the money. I know Bezos is giving you the money, but Zuck's saying, hey, film it on this. It's free, and I will give you... Maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars. Kareem, you got to stop with the passion projects, bro. The passion is making bread. The passion is making bread. You got to stop with the passion projects. Let's get you out of that shirt, Kareem. Come on. So I did this for the... Shout out Jack Wagon or Otherworld. Free shirt. Shout out to Jack. Free shirt. So we had Keep the Meter Running. We did the premiere. I saw. I was sorry I was out of town. But it was fucking lit. It was like the party costs. as much as the show, which is unprecedented. Who paid for the party? Infatuation, Open Table, YouTube, and the Doris Duke Foundation. Wow, thanks to that insane lineup. So I did what you're saying. Is that David Duke's wife? No, they said it couldn't be done, though. I said I want to do it at the Metrograph. Everyone said the Metrograph cost like 80K.

I said it doesn't matter. How does the Metrograph cost 80K? Because it's the only place that shows failing movies in downtown Manhattan? Because it's just an event space, dude. Everyone had like 824, Netflix, HBO. They all have their screenings there. I mean, I know. It is a good place for a screen. No one goes to the cinema there. That's a lie. I know you went to every night of the Jack Harlow curation. No, that wasn't the Roxy. Roxy. Bro, like water for chocolate Slade, bro. Basketball Diaries. Like water for chocolate. Yo, I saw him at the GQ party, and he embraced me. Like physically. He didn't embrace. Bro, Harlow's a real one. He's getting clowned out there. Harlow's a real one. He's a nice guy. He's cool. I think he's in on it. Like, I just don't. Oh, yeah. He's for sure in on it. Justice for Harlow. Justice for Harlow. Put it in the Reddit. So how was the party? Because I saw you had an old school New York cab. be done they said it couldn't be done i i bought out the whole metrograph and i said we have i said we look here's what happened is when i walked away from the tv deal i was really sad that i wasn't going to get driven around in like a cadillac escalate all day and like go to my big party like that's what's that's the part that's the magic that you miss when you independently make something right like and all these people that come to subway takes They pull up in the big black Suburban, paid for, of course, and they get out and then they go on the little press tour. And I was like, damn, I don't get to do that. That's like the only thing that I want. That's the only part that I want is the black SUV and the big fucking Premier. And so I was like, okay, if I'm not going to do that, I'll just figure out how to do that. But that was what was important to me. I had the Escalade for two days. I like that. It was so sick. Driving around the city. How much is having a driver, how much did that cost? How much did having the Escalade in the city for two days? It was paid for. I know, but I'm not saying that YouTube didn't pay for it. I want to know how much it costs. I bet it's like $1,800 a day. Okay, could you smoke in it? I didn't try to smoke in it. Hookah?

Yeah, I had the hookah and a Puerto Rican guy carrying it around for me. Did you have control of the climate in the back or was that off? Yeah, I had climate control. Did you have any important phone calls where you said kind of fucked up stuff that the driver could hear? I'm always on the phone. I'm always on the phone. You're rolling calls. What kind of boldface names came that aren't on Substack? Any real celebrities? Eric Andre? Eric Andre? Does he count? I said real celebrities. We got anything better than that? Cole Sprouse. I love Cole Sprouse. Jason and I had a very weird night with Cole Sprouse in Austin, Texas. What did you guys do? He was there. Yeah, we happened to be there DJing this music festival. We did a podcast there. And then in the club later on with a friend of the show, Python, Eugene. Kotlarenko. He was like, bro, are you guys in Austin? I'm in town hanging out with Sprouse. I'll pull up to the club. And then it was basically just like smoking cigs with Cole Sprouse while every girl in the club was like... It was great. Cole Sprouse is very... He's one of these guys that will hit me up at 3 p.m. almost every Wednesday. And we'll just be like, beer? Like, he's European. He's on a European vibe. Yeah, yeah, he's on a European vibe. If European was in the valley, 100%. No, he's a European vibe in downtown Manhattan. This guy's always wanted to hang out and have Guinness. Okay, Sprouse. Apertivo as Sprouse. And fun fact, I introduced Eugene to Cole, and then Eugene put Cole in his movie, which I don't know if this is public information. From what I understand, in Hollywood, I think that makes you a producer. I think it's a special thanks. Oh, not special. Keeps open doors. Put that in your Instagram bio. I think it's a special thanks. Not Patreon executives, not YouTube creators, you know, like real. Oh, Rami was there. Rami Yusuf. I mean, Amelia was there. Are these celebrities? They're celebrities. Rami Yusuf has to go because there's only two of you. And if he doesn't support you, who will? Rami Yusuf has to go. He has to go. John Teets. John Teets. Oh, my man. All right. John Teets. I'll give it to Teets. I saw Teets in the red carpet with you and your Red Cup boys on the red carpet. You had your little Red Cup boys moment with your homies from home. I saw it. Yes, yes, yes. That was the entourage. That was the entourage moment. How many members are in?

your red cup boys uh how many members are in your mint tea cup boys six six six including me but they're all white so they're they're really just red cup boys well you grew up in minnesota but jason um kareem at the at the gq at the met gal after party where kareem was hired to do interview i was not interviewed but you were hired to do interviews i i you were telling me about your delayed party where you took your homies to ireland and i was like oh you guys i was like you guys went to ireland did you pay and he said hell no and i was like wow i thought you were i thought it was i thought you were doing i thought it was a little different bro you just told me don't pay for anything and actually there was a faux pas after the party after ireland i received a venmo request this episode of how long gone is brought to you by squarespace obviously jason you and i spend a lot of time on the world wide web sort of our peers our listeners our friends our colleagues obviously maybe even your parents if they're freaky um and if you're doing anything in the world writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative, but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools. So those future graduates can find me and, you know, I'm able to accept quote unquote donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. Show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early, and we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional as your competition, if not more. Head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince.

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But it's understood that Kevin pays for all of their everything. No, no. I don't think I'm supposed to pay on that trip. What was the 2,000? What was it accredited to? Meals and entertainment? What category would it fall into? It was all-inclusive. It was the all-inclusive. Lodging, entertainment, food and bath. It was all-inclusive. Miscellaneous. Marketing expenses. Dude, so you thought, okay, hold on. So you thought you could plan this trip in your honor. When you're popping, when you're popping, they can't open their phones without seeing your little mug smiling, laughing with some hottie. All in the video. All up in the videos. And then you thought you could do that, not pay for them to go, and then also not pay for any of the lodging and food? You thought they were going to pay for it? I thought you guys were going to be on my side. I mean, I'm saying this trip didn't need to happen at all. I know, but they had the opportunity and the privilege of joining me on a Mecca pilgrimage to Ireland. Okay, here's what you should have done. Venmo request denied. Do what you want when you're popping, Kareem. Maybe I'll do that right now. I don't think I've paid it. Just say nah. Do you care if you see these guys ever again? Probably not. That trip was probably enough, right? As your fame continues to grow, the distance between you and the boys is really growing. Maybe send an emoji with the denial. Maybe one of the grinning ones or the head shake. Here's the hack with Venmo, though. You just let it sit. Because if you deny, they get a notification. If you just let it sit. Don't forget about it. Okay, if these guys are Venmoing you for two bands after this trip, they're checking to see if you pay. Letting it sit is soft dick behavior. Denying it openly with an emoji that will make them more mad is hard dick behavior. All right, all right. Bend them over, Kareem. Do you really think these, do you think that this is, is this something you guys have discussed? Like, or did this come as a surprise? You're saying the 2K request came as a surprise to you. Well, I'll say that I also got an apology. After the request was sent, someone said, I'm sorry, the trip was really expensive, so we had to include you in the split. What do you think this trip was costing PP? It sounds like two racks, plus travel. I'm sorry, that's not really expensive. Not that I'm... I'm the brokest guy on this chat right now, but I'm saying... Well, the plus travel is a little tough. The plus travel, that could be... The travel could be $10,000 or $4,000. Let me say something else.

here's a plot twist there was actually 11 guys plus me so technically that two racks divided by 11 is is what is i'm bad dollars 200 extra per person pp oh so oh if okay so these these these guys with stock options that are vesting their pocket watching bro They're pocket watching for $200. $200? They're pocket watching. $200 each. $[redacted address] in Ireland, though, doesn't it? Jack from Trackstar wouldn't pay it. Let me say that right now. Jack from Trackstar wouldn't pay it. Invoice denied. My OG wouldn't pay that, bro. No way. Talk to my lawyer. I'm going to have to reevaluate my friendships. You look confident today wouldn't pay it. I'm just saying, bro. They wouldn't pay it. This is the pep talk I needed. don't pay it you know things things happen so fast i didn't really realize my level in the echelon i mean i didn't know that we were working with guys i didn't know we were working with tech level because like jason and i we don't really jason's got one homie who's very successful but i don't have tech homies like i don't really have that like i got guys i got guys that made money but mostly because their dad died like i don't have that's old money come on daddy i don't got a lot i don't got a lot of like yeah you know what i just i started early i got in you know what i mean i don't really have that that's new money so that's a different that's new money they should basically phone me out on the pj $200 is a, I mean, that's a Waymo decimal point for these guys. People are going to be very upset about this. That won't get you a pillow on Sabai. Am I right, fellas? Do you think your Red Cup boys listen to How Long On? I think a couple of them probably do. I just wanted to say I love you guys. And I also think that they are very supportive. They are very supportive. So I'll receive texts sometimes that are like, hey, just listen to you on the Trevor Noah podcast. Great job. If they listen to you and Trevor Noah, they're in for a surprise today. They're actually having some fun. Bro, you slayed on SmartList, man. That was epic. Yeah, you've been hoeing yourself out a little bit because I'm putting a governor on your little ass. Do you think you can just come on how long gone after doing all this little CNBC ass? You're a little too exposed right now. You're exposed, bro. No, this is the press tour. Again, I wanted the black SUV, the fucking premiere party, and I wanted to go on the legitimate press tour.

No fuddy-duddy shit. Jason, real talk, and this isn't us. I'm not gassing this up. I'm asking real questions. Do you think more people listen to How Long Gone Than Trevor Noah's podcast? That's a real question. I think we're probably pretty close. i'm just wondering he's listening right now he's like that's cute that's cute that you think i'm not even close no not even close so how was it doing smartlets because those are kind of our real enemies just because they do what we do and make a lot more money they're they're good podcasters but i would say you guys are are better podcasters but they are really good podcasters compared like oh i think no for sure yeah like they're they're you know they're former actors maybe current actors of bateman and and Arnett's... Bateman's in 16 shows on Netflix every... It's unbelievable how much Bateman works. It's awesome. And he's a great actor. No, he is. He's a really good actor. He's beloved. But their potting skills are elite. Like, they're good. And I've always told people, I've always said, like, Jason and Chris are extremely good podcasters. Well, thank you. Definitely the most enjoyable. They were up there. They were good at podcasting. I mean, there's a reason that show is popular. I don't think it's due to their fame. I disagree with you on that. Oh, wow. I think they phoned it in. I think you could tell that they don't want to be there when you listen to it. You think I want to be here? What the fuck do you mean? And the whole format of the guest is a surprise. You don't know who it is, so you have no way to prepare any questions for it if you were going to. Only works if you're a master at improvisational conversation and you care about the stuff. half the time you know like the charlie xcx episode is a prime example where like jason bateman doesn't know who this person is so you get you get an hour podcast where you're just like so like what's your life like do you music is good like it's like talking to a fucking three-year-old But then when they have somebody like you on, it's a fucking hour-long glaze fest. I open up my phone and I look at you on Subway takes and I watch it and I'm like, it's so good. It is actually crazy. Yeah, it's good. You got glazed. I think so. Let's go pay some bills. Brat top 200 for like four years. Your ass comes on, they're glazing. They don't, they're like.

Must be nice. I think they think it's interesting because they're so far removed. That is probably true. They're just like, oh, this guy's done something. Here's the thing, though. I don't make nearly as much money as any of those people. I think that it's sad. It's actually sad. I don't get paid for my job, which is to make videos on the subway and in taxi cabs. Of course. I get paid to do all the other stuff. So you guys get paid on this podcast. I don't get paid on this podcast. That's right. And we thank you for that. Well, no, we're going to start. No, we're switching up. We're going Vlad style. We have a rev share program that I think you'll find interesting. We're going to pay Lil Boozy $30,000 to come on because he's going to get us so many. He's going to say such fucked up shit. Does Vlad pay? He pays. In hip-hop world, people pay and get paid. I like hip-hop. There are no rules to the way media. Because I think there's a lot of people out in the world. There's probably people listening to this podcast that think people pay to come on and vice versa. that's really something that does happen it's not it's not super prevalent but it absolutely does happen oh i know it happens but i'm saying i think that the most popular things that people listen to that would never happen you know what i mean that that's what i've i've i've had a couple guests on who have paid yeah i'm sure but like they they personally don't pay but like the label pays subway takes is a dip that's different that's fine i think if if if netflix wants to pay 30 bands for fucking somebody annoying to come on i think that's totally fine because it's just what it is you know what i mean podcasting for for for better or worse is is to me that feels and i don't have this but i sometimes it flares up unethical is it unethical Is it unethical? He pulled a knife out and I think he's trying to rob us over Zoom right now. This is my country knife. It's one of those things where the amount of money that we were going to get for whatever it is is just not going to... You wouldn't do it for like 30K? No. Oh, wow. I don't know. I mean, because you hear about... I won't. I know how much people pay for certain, you know, like Dear Media pods or like...

Like I founded this new soap brand for children that is good. It's like five to ten grand. That's not enough. So we split five grand between Chris and I. Ian gets a cut. We're walking away with $1,300 to have Todd Snyder on the podcast. It's just not worth it. It's not worth it. I would do Tom Snyder for free. They know they're paying. We know you're paying us. So the energy is so wrong. I think that for this show, it would be very obvious. And if you're paying us money, we can't make fun of you and be real. And no one wants to be a paid. You can't at the top of the episode be like, this is a paid episode. Because then everyone's like, this is awful. No, you can't be a pay pig. I mean, look, we should because we give this podcast away for free and people still love to fucking complain about every fucking thing we do. you know, it's like, how do you guys manage the haters? I mean, we don't, it's not like a real part of my life. I mean, it's not like, it's like people are like giving me death. We don't see the hate really. It's, it's rare. We don't, we choose it's, it's avoidable, but I just mean, I know that my attitude has always been like, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. If we're not charging you, I don't really know what you, you don't have a leg to stand. Do you ever, do you ever clap back? No. i'll clap i mean every once in a while i got it i clap i clap back i got a dm from a guy that dm i sent you the other day jason i got a dm from a guy who wrote me like a full paragraph about how hanover sucks because it's i'm not taking a risk and it's why am i not doing it like katherine hammett he like named some like avant-garde just stuff that's like bro what are you talking about and i responded lol lol lol is nice and then he tried to respond this is like a 55 year old man like this is like an adult man who's dm'd me before like over the years you know what i mean he was like i was drunk i'm like dude but it's not it's not people like don't i think people i think people would rather be on a reddit thread gassing each other up about how bad the thing they listen to or watch is than actually tell the person that it's more fun

Do you know what I mean? It comes from a place of adoration and love. They want to see you do the thing that they believe in their mind that you're doing. And when it's not exactly what they were hoping for in their mind, they write you a DM that you could maybe... send to the fbi and somebody would go to their house because it was that level of fucking jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with you but what do you get i don't i'm sure that guy's listening right now oh he's definitely sorry but it was a psycho thing to write i was basically a suicide note the way i get drunk three to four days a week i don't do that happens again cream's gonna cut you how do you respond how do you respond because i feel like your shit i mean You told me that because when I did subway takes, you were like, no, I still get I get notifications every day from people responding to that still. And it was six months ago, eight months ago because the algorithm feeds it up. But you don't go. You don't look at that. You don't like. No, no. Are you on Instagram or no? No, no, no, no. If like I'll post, I've gotten better. So I was doing the posting myself until like three months ago. And then I started like, I was like, I can't keep doing this. Like, this is too, too much. So I hired an assistant and now she posts. But when I was posting, I would, you know, I would stay logged in for the first 10 minutes and just kind of get a temperature check on what people were saying. And sometimes it'd be like, oh, not another fucking celebrity. And I would just, I'd be like, the reason that you receive celebrity episodes is because you watch celebrity content. I have posted 15 episodes of Normal People and you're complaining about Bateman because the whole Discover page is probably Bateman. You fucking loser. It makes me so angry. And then every time you post a non-celebrity, it's like, who the fuck is this? Nobody. Yeah, they'll be like, oh, nah, you know, you shouldn't have normal people. It's just whatever. I don't really care. It's not real haters, and it's such a small amount. It's not even a vocal minority. It's just like a couple people that I like to go to war with every once in a while. It's fun. The way that people feel ownership over something, that they have no...

say in and no financial contribution to is pretty unbelievable and i think it's a symptom that really exists because of the internet and did not exist before yeah like maybe with music people felt like you know what i mean people feel like an ownership over it because we're we we spend most of our lives alone in bed with our phone and instead of sharing your thoughts with your friend group or family or church or whatever whoever you're hanging out with All I got is my Instagram comment box, and that's who I'm going to talk to today. And then maybe 17 people will like it, and I won't kill myself today. Pray for Kareem. Subway takes. Available everywhere you stream. Pray for Kareem. So Charlize Theron was kind of getting saucy with you, though, low-key, because I know you try to keep it PG. I do try to keep it PG. I feel like Charlize was saying. Did you guys kick it after? No, she was not a guest they picked it with afterwards. She was one of those people where it's like, you know, you already know. Like, it's not, there's no exchange of information. There's no, like, we should get together. Even if there was a vibe, you didn't exchange? Yeah, that's not, that's not happening. I mean, she's so like, she's just levels above me. I'm a, I'm a merely a peasant. How many people from her team were on the train? I think it was like four or five. We had hair and makeup. We had assistant. Wow. Someone's got to catch those FlyOS. We had security. We probably had PR person. Was she promoting? You know, I don't ask. Yeah, it's not about what they're promoting, Chris. Thanks, guys. I know that. But usually that information comes across from one of the 40 emails you're on before it happens. Chris, the answer is the survival action thriller Apex, which premiered on Netflix April 24th. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Kareem. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Well, no, I get... I'm sure you... I receive so many emails. Like, most of the time, if there's not a direct question... I hit archive. Like I just archive, archive, archive, archive. Unless it's like Kareem. Somebody has to at Kareem me and say, what do you think about this specific thing? Sure. If I'm just on an email and people are emailing, then I'm just archiving the minute it comes up. Well, how big is the Kareem team right now? How many people we got on the Kareem team staff? Well, there's like three managers. Why do you have three managers? That's how it works now.

You mean the Hollywood one? They do the different... No, they're all at the same company, but the way it works now, I believe it's like this, is you have an agent or whatever, but you really have a team. That's why everyone's like, oh, my team. And it's because back in the Hollywood days, if you were Tom Cruise's agent, and Tom Cruise said, I'm leaving the agency, then all of a sudden, the company suffers. but now or like if the agent sorry if the agent leaves then the whole yeah yeah so now they're like oh so you've got you know you've got chris jason and kareem working for you so if if if jason leaves i'm gonna stay And they're not going to lose the business. This is why I keep a diverse portfolio in case one of my investments takes a shit due to whatever. You know, I still got my whatever going on over there. It's smart. Apex. But then it ruins the whole relationship of the Hollywood agency business. You have three managers. I have three-ish managers. Three-ish, I'd say. A publicist? A publicist that I just hired to do my legendary historic press. Where does the publicist work? Over creative. His name's Louis K. And he's a legend. congratulations lewis you did a great job he did a fucking fantastic he did a great job luckily he wasn't involved in this but he did do a good job he did a legendary job covert creative covert spelled with a k that's crazy it's just covert with a k that's crazy all right interesting all right so you have all right we're at 14 members right now please continue and then andrew like produces subway takes hot tall asian now yeah my guy and then and then adam produces keep the meter running oh okay and then there are like you know trickle down there's like shooters and editors and there's a whole thing there's a whole apparatus that's what i'm saying i need an estimate on total employee i need total i need total we're looking at 15. but there's a lot of freelancers chris all of everyone's a freelancer with the exception of my assistant yeah and then uh but yeah it's probably like 12 to 15 people okay are they coming to the kareem world headquarters

No. Or you're in there solo. Adam will come sometimes. Andrew will come sometimes. The assistant will come sometimes. Just imagine how rich you would be if you just nutted up and did all this shit yourself and didn't pay fucking 15 people. You'd be so sick. Dude, I would be so rich. I really would. But I can't hold my own cameras or stick them to the train. That's true. Yeah, you can, bro. Actually, I like being a job creator. Okay, all right, relax, bro. I was just driving yesterday in Hollywood, and I saw a poster. There's a new film, Fallout, which I think is a movie based on a video game or whatever. But on the poster, it was boldly advertising. This film was shot in California. Oh, wow. And I think we're weeks away maybe from films and TV being advertised as made without artificial intelligence. Because people don't spend money on things that they want. They spend money on things that they think they should be doing or virtuous acts or it's the right thing to do. You don't want to hang out with your family, but you do it because it's probably the right thing to do. You know what I mean, Kareem? I think it's good that you're doing that and maybe put a little logo on it filmed by real humans and filmed by real Americans in America. It's like when Apple put designed in California. You guys should also do a disclaimer at the top of the pot. Look, Made in USA is something I'm going to die on. You have it on Hanover, don't you? Yeah, we do. We have the flag on the tag. So we care. We care. I like the hoodie, by the way. I have a hoodie. Oh, thank you. And I have the long sleeve tee. Long Sleeved Teas, one of my favorite. But yeah, I think that the Made in California on a Netflix billboard, that's definitely going to happen. We're going to see that a lot more. I think that's going to help. I think that's going to help. Because people are like, how do I save this industry? How do I know which films to go invest my money in and get the box office up on? Which ones are slop and which ones are not? It's a good distinction. And How Long Gone uses no AI, just to let you guys know.

Is that true? What am I going to use AI for? I don't know. You use AI all day long every day. I assumed it trickled in here. Does Jason use AI every single day? Bro, Jason's the AI king, bro. He's like, you might as well call him Claude the way he uses AI. I mean, I use it to ask questions. I'm not using it to create things out of thin air. Wait, what kind of questions? I asked my AI something today. I said, where do I rent a brush dog in Connecticut? See, there you go. That's a great use. That's a great use. I asked earlier where I could get my laundry done, fluff and fold in Beverly Hills. So look, I'm not above it either. I'm not above it either. I have a question though. When do you decide to use AI versus the just Google search? Yeah, people are upset because when you ask chat GPT a question, it gives you an answer. And the more you use it, the more it kind of knows you and knows your flavor and what you're interested in and what you're looking for. And every time you ask, you know, you Google something. There's like 11,000 ads for sub buy or whatever you just Googled or whatever you looked on in the real, real, you know, three pages of just nonsense. And then you get a Reddit thread where somebody might be answering the question you're looking for. It's cooked. It's cooked. It's done. I mean, I don't, I try not to ask anybody questions. I just kind of use my own brain, but sometimes that doesn't work. Is it gay to ask another man a question? It's what we do for a living. I phone a friend every time. That's what I'm saying. I don't use Google or chat GPT. I ask a human being every time. Oh, okay. Your network is your net worth. It's kind of like AI, but it's people. Yeah. It's just intelligence. Yeah. Drop the A. It's cleaner. It's cleaner. We have a friend, David Cho, who in our group chat will- I know David Cho. I'm saying in the group chat, he's always asking me questions that are just the easiest things to search on the internet. and it may i'm like bro just search the internet like why are you asking me

He's trying to create a discourse. If I say, hey, this is Kareem Rama, and he's like, who is that? Instead of just looking it up. I'm like, dude, just look it up. Why do you want me to explain it when there's probably a better explanation out there at your fingertips? Maybe he just doesn't want to use the precious resource of water. No, I'm not saying. I think these questions are not necessary. The AI does not need to be used. These are questions that are classic Google simple answers. These are not like complex. build me a workout plan for a 65 year old man with, you know, it's not like that. I used to do that all the time with that website. Let me Google that for you. Oh, yeah. I would do that all. It was a classic one. I still do it to Cho every once in a while. That was a great website. That was nice. That was a nice little slap in the face. All right. Well, while we have you, what Drake song were you listening to on the way to Connecticut, bro? My bruv? I haven't listened to any of the hundred songs that have recently been released. Not even Habibi? Not Habibi? You haven't listened to Habibi? Not fucking... What is? Janus STFU. Janus STFU, unfortunately, is an all-time classic smash. It's unbelievable. Is it a banger? Unbelievable. The club record got an 8.0 on Pitchfork today I saw where Iceman got more of a 4.7, 4.6. So what are the albums? There's a Habibchi. It's a Habibchi, no? Not Habibi. It's Habibchi, which is the... women's version. That's because he, you know, he's trying to fuck them masked up chicks. He likes that shit. He likes that shit. Mask. Habibiti? Mask. That was the first time I've heard it described as masked up. He likes a little burka bop house. He wants to take that burka off. We're private. We're private. Nothing wrong with it. There's Habibiti, there's Iceman, and there's Club Kid? Club Dance? The club one's called Maid of Honor. But Iceman's like hip-hop and Maid of Honor is like club music. I don't know what Habibiti, I don't know what that is. I haven't really given it a shot. Have you guys been listening to those records? I've listened to Janice STFU about a thousand times because it's so good. Oh, so it's hard. It goes hard. Bro, we had Juicy J tweeting the line, like, blow on me like some green tea, baby. People in the streets are talking. Because it's a Licky Lee melody. She had to sign off on it. It's the...

That's why it's so popular, because that's an all-time earworm, as they say in the biz. It's not a sample. It's not a sample. He just recreated the melody exactly with different words. Interpolation, they call it in the biz. Yes. In the biz. The same way Maid of Honor is interpolating the title of the 2008 film Maid of Honor, starring Patrick Dempsey. But it's spelled Canadian style with a U. Kareem, as you know. Oh, on or. It is. Yeah, on or. That's an interesting choice. Made is, of course, spelled M-A-D-E. M dot A dot E dot E. Is this real? In the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. No, it is spelled. No, it's spelled maid, not MAID. I thought you were referencing the Madden Brothers Corporation, but you're saying, okay, I got it. It's a triple entendre in the style of Drake. In the style of Drake, it's a triple entendre. But yeah, Kareem, when are you going back to the city? How long are you going to be out? How long do you think you're going to spend? in Connecticut. When are you going back to the six? What's the time split? This is a long, because I'm recovering from the legendary historic press tour that I went on. Did you do coke or anything? What'd you do that night? Of course. Just a little dab. Okay, so we're recovering from the girls tour, from the world tour, I mean, up in Connecticut. It was just a little dab, though. It wasn't anything intense. Just a little dab of dab. A little dab of gambling? Just a little dab. And then, so now I'm relaxing. Are we up? Are we up or are we down? We're, I mean, I deleted Kalshi. Really? I had to delete it. What bet was the straw that broke the camel's back, my friend? Oscars really fucked me up. Really? Oscars? Yeah, because I got really cocky because I put like early, early, like three months before the Oscars. I was like Michael B. Jordan, best actor for sure. The odds were like 2%. And I think I put in like $500 and then that turned into like three racks. But then while the Oscars were going, I was like, I know a lot about all of this. So I took all that three racks plus some and made a big spread. And let's just say that I lost it all.

I didn't win any bets. And it was because I was doing it while the Oscars, like an hour before, I'm like, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then I was like, I gotta delete. And then before that, I was doing Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl. Who is he gonna bring out? What song is he gonna play first? What song is he gonna play fifth? What is he gonna end with? What's he gonna wear? I was betting on all those. and i lost every single one of those bets so i was like you know what i think that this is not a good habit to build i'm sorry i'm sorry you had to learn your lesson the hard way but that that's a it's positive it's just so exciting it makes life fun i think it's so that's like darker to me than like 99 of things that people consider dark but you have to use you have to use crypto though right no no you use real money just like from the visa just pulls it out of the visa card i mean it's really the visa from the visa don't worry they'll take the money right out of your visa yeah i feel like you get to a point where you're at the stoplight and you're betting on when it's going to change and it's just like what do we do what are we doing bro this is we're doing cocaine is what we're doing we're betting the high card at 6 a.m I think it might be the worst thing to happen to American society in a long time. Like, we don't talk about how bad it is. Because I think there are a lot of people that are doing what I do and can't afford that, like bosses. And also, it's just... And also, you know, I sent my first cease and desist out. I think it was Kalshi or Polymarket. But one of them ran ads in the subway that said, will the subway takes guy agree or disagree? more in 2026 without my permission i was not involved but i had to hit i first cnd yeah do you own the trademark to subway takes guy though of course or you just embody it no no i own the trademark to subway takes did you get any bread or did they just stop you didn't know you didn't get any bread no no i just said you must stop using this i had to pay i lost money again i spent two thousand dollars to send a cnd i would have told them i would tell them keep using it just break me off i'll let you keep doing it for 25.

It's because I'm afraid of getting my kneecaps broken because somebody could kidnap me and say, you better fucking disagree. I have a hundred racks. That's what's scary about athletes. If you don't want LeBron to win, you can make sure he doesn't win by breaking his ankle. Then he can't play anymore. And then you win the bet. And LeBron, I mean, that's going to happen soon because he's so fucking old. It's going to happen to some athlete where it's like, or or anyone i mean it's just like it's scary because you like i was like okay if somebody puts 100k down and they're like they're like they were like i'm gonna win a million dollars and i need you to lose or i need you to disagree more they could intimidate and you know like shoot me with that thing or or cut i never thought about this but this is a good idea kareem you just created You just created 100,000 Tony Sopranos. Jason and I, let's get lunch, Kareem. Let's get lunch soon. I got some stuff I want to talk to you about business stuff I'd like to discuss. When we have lunch, I'm going to put my hand over your shoulder, but it's going to grab your neck a little harder than you were hoping. Just a little nudge. I just got some ideas. All right, Kareem, thank you for joining us as always. A How Long Gone favorite. Thank you guys. You're the best. Keep the meter running. Subway takes. The new Bourdain is right in front of us. Oh, I don't know. When are you going to start getting a little food into the mix? Those are big shoes to fill. Those are big shoes to fill. You're never going to fill them, but, you know, get a little food in the mix. We'll see what happens. There's food in the mix. The episode, the Russian Banya, you didn't make, I guess you didn't finish it, but. No, there was food. I saw you eat the herring. We'd be eating. You ate the herring. You ate the blini. Oh, herring's disgusting. Herring's disgusting. I wouldn't do that even if I was on. fucking your television show i've tried to have herring it's tough every every wednesday new episodes every wednesday every wednesday all right forever no for 10 more 10 more weeks 10 more we got 10 more 10 more apps you filmed them all already though in the can yeah yeah i did a tv style they're all done

God bless, bro. Congrats, congrats. We are looking forward to season two if we get picked up by Hulu or whoever it is and maybe a little How Long Gone cameo season two. What do you think? That would be nice. You could take me to that Armenian joint that we went to in Glendale. Yes, brother. That place was good. I'm still thinking about that. I'll give you eight glugs of fucking... You ain't gonna get that out. You ain't gonna get that out, Connecticut, big bro. You better bring your own kebab. You know what I'm saying? I'll bring my own stick. You always got the stick. Later, bro. We'll see you soon. All right, players. Thank you so much.