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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Chris Black, a beautiful day in New York. Jason, the temperatures are rising slightly. There's light at the end of the tunnel. It's good to be back. How are you feeling? I mean, I feel terrible, but how are you feeling? Somehow, some way, I don't feel bad at all, and I don't know how. It could be the business class lay flat to and from, but otherwise, this is the first pretty gnarly travel situation where I feel almost, I'm like 90%. I think maybe because it's so psychedelic from LA. like the time it's like almost you know what i mean sometimes it's like so it's so different it's fine whereas if it's a little closer it's easier but no i'm happy i mean i feel okay but i probably i pushed it a little bit yesterday by going to the gym and then to see a show and then getting up today and going to the gym again so that's probably on me wow okay so how many how many gyms have you done in 24 hours two okay But nothing crazy. I mean, I'm not going hard, hard. There's no PRs being put up. And what else is new? Exactly. Exactly. It's another day that ends in Y for me. But it's the only thing that gets the ya-ya. I have to do it. Right, right, right. Or I think I feel worse, which I never tested the theory, but it's good to be back. Because I get home, I'm able to roll up New Jack City.

Which is a great strain that one of my strains I have, or maybe something Hezbollah 4.0. Hold on one second, though. We need to keep it a buck. You ain't rolling shit, first and foremost. You're smoking it, but you ain't rolling it. That's false. Your boy's been rolling lately. Because the How Long Gone pre-rolls have obviously sold out. Far ahead of projected sales schedule goals. 2.0 is in the works right now, so I'm testing. terps i'm testing new flavor combos new shit is on the market we just do i have a question as a look as i know times have changed in the smoke in the smoking community but could we just do how long gone sour diesel like can we just bring it back to some real shit for the for our heads out there because all this new fangled shit it's too scientific i think just some classic new york style sour diesel i think i think we could re not that it's it's left the market but i think it could be reintroduced repackaged yeah People love New York-style marijuana. All the outdoor grow farms of Manhattan over the centuries have just been so legendary, shitting on. northern california and other parts of the world we we do need to return to good new york city marijuana right i'm not saying i'm not saying that it was grown here i'm saying it was it was made here you know as as how do you make weed without growing it huh i'm just saying you make it it's a it's like most things it's just a simple exercise in branding oh you're saying so it's made in cali sorry it's grown in cali but it's made on madison avenue exactly as sometimes as as people new york local new yorkers say I grew here, you flew here. You know what I mean? The weed flew here, but it grew here. Oh, period. As far as its relevance in the weed smoking community. Sure, sure, sure. Obviously, I don't know what I'm talking about. I have this L if you want to hold it or I can give it to you later, just however you want to do it. I mean, we don't have time to kind of handle all the... super deep i can't give you the l paperwork right now my lawyer's off yeah it's sunday and the whole daylight thing cut through through her off yeah my lawyer is a woman no so um so you're saying

Which is, you know, the classic old head, you know, back in my day, a dime bag cost a dime. And I think there was, like, they did some, like, high times posted, like, the top 40 weed strains of, like, the 70s or something like that, you know, back when it was Thai stick and Maui Wowie and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're saying that's too far back in the annals of chronic times and you want to return to something. involving the 2001 to 2009 era, the naughty oddies of dank consumption. Yeah, because when I used to buy weed in New York, you would text the number, the guy would show up, and he kind of had a... He would have a Pelican-style case. Wow, another millennial take. He's got everything in a Pelican. Exactly. And he'd have all the little jars, and they would have labels on them with names. And they would always change and rotate and blah, blah, blah. But the one that was always there, the one that was holding it down in the Pelican every week, was... sour diesel it's just it seems like a mainstay it seems like a tentpole of the of the whole operation but has been like it has been neglected because now everybody like you said what the fuck do you know so brass you don't know shit i don't know shit but i know that if it worked then it probably worked now but i'm there's a part okay i just i pulled up there's a website called stoops nyc and they of course there is they have a must try strain of 2026 the aj sour diesel strain sour diesel one of the most iconic strains in cannabis culture culture Its story is rooted deep in New York's underground scene. See? That's me, bro. Making it a favorite for generations of connoisseurs. Okay. I'm just, I know it's not. I wonder who wrote this website. Oh, yeah. StoopsNYC thinks it's a big part of NYC. Wow. What do you know? Hey, don't. Hey, look. Relax, bro. You know that's some graffiti writer for sure. There's no question. Okay. But I didn't know they were still ideating. No, it's true. I mean, you are correct. The 90s sour diesel culture, it was huge. New York, not just Kelly. I was thinking about that the other day because I heard somebody walking down the street last night. I thought about it last night because I was walking down the street and a guy was like...

basically retelling a story to his friend about how like a guy was explaining sour diesel to him, but prefaced it with, you might be too young for this. And I was like, damn, is it really that, is it really that old head of a thing? But I guess maybe it is. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, you know, it's all like, like we were saying before there's, that is our sour diesel. The, the, the, the Thai stick, the sweet Chiba, the whatever, you know, they probably just had weed called like Larry. when that show was first coming out, you know? Sure. And it's going to be passed down from generation to generation. But yeah, I mean, I was... So all that is to say, yes, I've been rolling up and yes, my joint rolling is starting to get low-key nice with it. Are you using a helper or are you just using those big fingers of yours? I'm using my big fingers. No helper. I got my papers. The papers come on like a rolling, kind of like a wrapping paper roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a snip that has a little... little filter that you roll up and just twist up that filter filters for pussies go ahead really no bro come on bro it's just i it's shit like that is just unnecessary i know sometimes it can make it easier to smoke i i was more of a blunt expert than a joint roller so it's a different it's got a bigger hole pause opening I'm pretty sure in 2026, you know, the amount of people who are anti-filter, there's not very many anti-filter people. It's not a filter. Well, that's because it, I think that's because the pre-rolls come with them. And so that's what people now expect. You know what I mean? Like that, that's sort of the standard has changed a little bit is what I would, I would imagine. I love a sober motherfucker telling me about drugs. I mean, I don't mean to boast or brag or make myself look stupid, but I think you could probably keep smoking weed for another 10 years and I've still got you. And I've been off for 10 years. You've been off and a lot can change. That's true. No, of course, of course, of course. I feel like I'm Two Hollis. I got Tortoise over here telling me how to make dubstep. I'm like, okay, sit down, Grandpa. Did you see that tweet that said Two Hollis looks like? And I can't remember what it was. I think it was said raw fish. I can't. There was something.

It was so stupid. I can't remember what it was. To me, he looks like an 80s hair metal video vixen. Like he would be busting his pussy open in a white snake video. No, it wasn't another... It was not a human being that they said he looked like. It was an animal or like a... Oh, okay. Raw fish. Or an inanimate object. It was not a person, I guess is what I'm trying to say. But I cannot remember what it was. I cannot remember what it was. Motherfucker looked like a soccer jersey. It could be just... He looks like a webcam. Who's got the new... Boy, you look like a webcam. This motherfucker looks like a damn webcam. All right, what came out, though? Did NetSpend come out? Because I saw that Paris Hilton was complimenting his new album. When you say come out, what do you mean? I mean, all these guys are gay, but are you talking about drop new shit? No, no, no. I mean, come out. I'm sorry, new music. There's a new NetSpend album. Is that fair or a new single? I think there's a new album in the works, yes. Okay, because I saw there was a... Lean Gut Spend has new shit on the web. It's crazy these guys can get Lean Guts this early. this young like if you're under 30 you shouldn't be physically you should not your body should not be able to produce a lean gut even a small one to stretch out the gucci boxer briefs like that it makes you wonder if if net spend's parents were abusing lean during pregnancy and it's you know what it's one of those things he's waterlogged with lean he can't get off it Honestly, that could be true. I don't know what his parents are up to. The thing about NetSpend is you know that his parents have corporate jobs. There's no way NetSpend ever got it out the mud in any way, shape, or form. Both of NetSpend's parents are college professors in Connecticut, a thousand percent. Exactly. I was thinking about Lean this morning about how even though the amount of promethazine use seems to have gone down since its heyday, it's still around and people are still using it. I don't think it's as prominent. I think it's harder to get and it's more expensive and more rare. So it's only being abused by some of the big spenders in the game. But I think the culture and the act of the process of the lean, you know, the pouring it and the purple and it mixes and it's all pretty. To me, it's just male Stanley Cup drink culture.

Yeah, it is. It has the same energy, just re-skinned to have a little more of a hard edge, but still it's ultimately a human adult child who needs candy to drink their water. Until you've dumped some of that purple stuff inside of a Sprite and turned it upside down to make it go lava lamp mode, I don't know if you've seen true beauty. You know, I've seen some of the finest paintings ever created, and I still say a two liter, you know, dumped upside down, the way that oil and water mix. Of course. It is one of the most beautiful sights a human can see. Breathtaking it is. I will agree. Breathtaking. It is breathtaking, but it's odd that something that's such a simple reaction of colors has captivated our nation's youth. I just don't understand. I don't understand cutting stuff, really. That's my issue with it. Just take a simple lean out of the bottle. You don't get all that sugar. You're already going to get the lean. The lean gut is mostly Sprite, Jason. I think that's what we're forgetting. Wow, he just said the quiet part out loud. I don't mean to out. I would never come for Big Coca-Cola, my hometown corporation, one of my favorites. But if we're keeping it a buck, if you're just sipping lean like it's prescribed by the doctor, you'd still get fucked up, but you can't walk around with the double cup, and that's really why people are doing it. Okay, fellas, what's gayer? Wanting to have your lean be made with Sprite Zero? Or feeling the need to make your yummy drink purple? you know what i mean like it's it's a it's a sort of a it's an even battle right sprite now sprite zero is crazy sprite zero mixing up the sprite zero is crazy even if you're drake like that's too crazy i mean you know abs are made in the lean kitchen as they say chris yeah lean kitchen one of my favorite delivery one of my favorite ghost kitchen delivery places in la guts are made on the soda fountain um yeah so we were we we've had some loco travel i guess 72 hours 24 of those for me were in flight, but somehow, like you were saying, I think just depending on where you're flying from and to and what direction and what time of day, you can almost, it's almost as if you just, like when you see somebody walking up an escalator that's going down and they sort of arrive at the same time as their friend who's doing it the regular way, it really is like cutting a hole in space and time continuum.

for me to just get on a plane at 1 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon, you know, 11-hour flight, and I land Saturday afternoon on the other side of the world, and everything is just normal again. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Hopefully you don't crash, because this has happened to me before, too, where I get a little cocky, and then something happens. I mean, I felt pretty bad the whole time. I don't know what happened this trip. Something was off, because I felt bad the whole time. Like, I never really felt. Right. You had higher hopes for Balenciaga. No, no, no. That was it? My physical body, not my mental. My mental state is always bad. My physical body, but I did go for it. I felt fine until I saw Lil Yachty pull out Uno cards at dinner and then I had to take a knee. I don't. I'll never understand the fascination with games in adults, especially, I mean, whatever. I'd rather watch him play cards. Not everyone has our gift of gab or our love of conversation. Would you rather Lil Yachty pull up to the freestyle and just say, you know what, we're going to play Uno instead or spit bars? That's the real question. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable, and they're just easy, but still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics, but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada.

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I would rather Lil Yachty be beloved and famous than 99% of rappers that take themselves too seriously. You know what I mean? I guess all rappers are just podcasters now, which is infringing on our territory, of course, but it's a strange... But it's cool because I think that they come from a shit-talking culture, and I think it's actually the perfect job. I think it's the perfect job for a rapper that's sort of... you know a little too old to be doing it i think the reason they all do it is because it's actually what they're great at it's it's it's interesting how they're thriving speaking of rappers who are who are awesome people and personalities but don't need to listen to the music i i was cleaning up some old screenshots and things on my phone as i will do on the plane found a vince staples tweet from 10 years ago The photo, remember the photo of Kobe Bryant where he was wearing like the all-white look? He kind of looks like Elon. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a classic photo. Classic one. So Vince Staples tweeted that portrait of him 10 years ago. Almost 10 years ago, like April 2016, almost exactly 10 years. Here's the tweet with that photo attached to it. Tagging at Kobe Bryant at Lakers. I've hated you my whole life. Thanks for the memories, little bitch. I've hated you my whole life. I mean, Vince Staples is a national treasure. I mean, I'm not like tuning in for his... I'm just saying it takes chutzpah to call Kobe Bryant a little bitch. you know, after he dies in an untimely, awful death. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But I think that if my enemy dies, I'm still going to call him a bitch. Like, that's not, I get where he's coming from. That's true. I get where he's, you're still a bitch, dead or alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dead or alive. But what is Vince Staples doing? He's doing like a variety show sponsored by Taco Bell. He's doing the Liv Moss Taco Bell variety show hour. That check must, oh my God. I can't even imagine what he's getting paid for that. What do you, I mean, what?

300? What do you think it is? At least. At least. Depending on how much work he has to do for the cure. Because the curation is loco. Like it's insane. So I got it pulled up. This is happening soon. When this episode comes out. This will be tomorrow. This is happening streaming live on Peacock March 10th. It's the Taco Bell Live Moss live at the Palladium. So it's really coming back to the Live Moss era of, you know, I guess that was 20 years ago almost. We're back. The reality television kind of extreme sports Live Moss energy. What's your guy's name? Travis Pastrana? Yeah, he was living moss in the Red Bull. 900 vert suite at the snowboard uh hand gliding competition okay so i i i we got teased this image and i was like oh night of the palladium it's a variety show hosted by vince staples in los angeles his hometown hey cuz hopes aren't high but he's known as pretty high actually they're pretty high he's a funny guy he's got good taste he knows right from wrong I'm thinking he's going to get these amazing comedians and weird performers and good musicians and some real shit that I could be interested in viewing. Okay. And then the lineup was released. First artist performing is Benson Boone. All right, look. All right, look. I'm going to say with 99%. that Vince Staples did not choose Benson Boone to perform. But as somebody who I believe has integrity and respect for themselves, I would push back. You would not push back. If we were getting paid that much money, you'd be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. Benson Boone, come play two songs, whatever. Also, there's a chance that Vince Staples is able to slyly make fun of Benson Boone. in a way that will be palatable for benson and us or whatever you know what i mean yes yes yes okay the next performer at the live moss event is davante adams who is a 33 year old wide receiver

Okay, so Devante is going to run some filthy routes out there for us just on stage. Like, what are we going to do? Okay, maybe he's dabbling in comedy or some other kind of performance. I'm not going to. I mean, he's been working on this juggling routine. He's got the unicycle out. He's juggling. He's eating cigarettes. He's doing the whole thing. Okay, he's eating cigarettes. Yeah, yeah. His off-season balloon art is really taken off. It's coming together. It's coming together. Next up, DJ Peewee, who I believe is Anderson Paak. Okay, okay. I found out recently that Anderson, because he told a story about getting put on to Ken Carson by his son, and Anderson Paak has like a grown son. Like his son's like 17. I'm like, I thought Anderson Paak was 30. I was just stunned by that. I had no idea. I have no idea how old he is. He looks good. Anderson Paak looks good. So maybe he is older and just looks good. But I was stunned. Anderson Paak, his son, his name is Sol Rashid. That's okay. You can't name your kid Sol. You can't do that. All right. Who's next on Vince's lineup? Sneaking in there at the bottom, Doja Cat. It's crazy. Who should be headlining the whole thing. I mean, Doja's falling off a little bit, but you can't. I mean, that does seem like fucked up billing. Doja, when she performs in LA, she's selling out SoFi, and this is at the Palladium. It seems like an odd thing. Next up, Fernando Mendoza, who is a 22-year-old quarterback for the Raiders. Okay, so I see what they're doing here. They're just trying to spread it out and touch all the interest areas. I can't even blame them because I don't know who these guys are, but I'm sure they're wildly popular. You know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know what they're going to do. Sorry, sorry, sorry. The Raiders are expected to sign him. He's still... Oh, he's a college athlete. Indiana Hoosiers. Okay, he's a Hoosier. He was born in 2003. Okay, got it.

i i kind of understand what i look these are not choices i would make jason but i understand so he's he's probably he's gonna kill it up there on the live moss variety show he really might though i mean he really might depending on how young how young the crowd is okay this is this is i gotta say i remember reading this when this like first came out and this is um somehow more twisted than i remember it being yeah and and i don't know and then there's a puerto rican rapper named mike towers Mike spelled with a Y. He's a 32-year-old Puerto Rican artist. Okay. His genre is Argentinian trap. Oh, wow. Okay. Shit. And then, of course, yeet at the bottom. White chocolate at the bottom. The goat. The real goat. Yeet on the pod when. I know all of your Jewish managers listen to this shit. Let's make it happen. Do you think Yeet can put together a sentence, though? Real talk. No offense, Zach Bia, but can Yeet put together a sentence? If he has a guy holding up and he's got the sticks inside the sleeve of his Supreme Mother jacket, he's moving his arms around for him. Our field trip records family. I think what they're doing over there at Taco Bell is really trying to touch all of the youth markets. It could be a situation where maybe it kind of works, and it could be a situation where you can't be everything to everyone. The only way to find out is to live stream tomorrow night on Peacock. Yeah, and I will never go to Taco Bell. I was mourning. I mean, I used to like Taco Bell. Jason? Yeah, what? Yeah, I lost you. Are you there? I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah, it's so weird. You just went totally blank. Yeah, it's windy over here in L.A., so I always get worried about the Wi-Fi and the electricity when it gets a blow in. over here but um yeah i guess speaking of of taco bell and variety shows there's just a little um correction from a previous episode about the uh here i was talking about the bet awards yeah yeah and i i learned afterwards that it was in fact the n double ac when i was talking about um Somebody was making a statement about if the guy with Tourette's syndrome screams the N-word in this room. It was the NAACP awards that were aired on BET. Yes. So I watched the clip. There was a video, and in the corner of it, a giant BET logo.

Everyone's wearing tuxedos on a stage. I made the assumption thinking it was the BET Awards and not the NAACP Awards. See, the reason you made the mistake is because you should know that no one wears a tuxedo at the BET Awards. So that is the main differentiator. Literally, that's not... I'm glad that we got an apology and a double down all in the same. That's the beauty of our one-two punch. It's like a VMAs versus... You know what I mean? It's just like they're wearing fucking... They're wearing blints. Like you said, it's just a different thing. Regardless of race, we're wearing a purple leather studded jacket. We're wearing some crazy shit. It's actually my friend made this. We're not wearing tips and tails. My friend made this for me. He's actually an up and coming designer is the vibe. Your designs are fire. Are you like a creative? Your designs are fire. But that is a mistake on your part. I would like to say to the person who tweeted at only me, Jason is the one who said all of this. I didn't say any of it and I wasn't even aware of it. So, but, but I'll take the, it's fine. We're a team. Put yourself in that Twitter users shoes. I get it. And you're like, they said it on how long gone gun to my head. Who's the one that made the, yeah, I'm going to go Chris block too. What are you going to do? Yeah, it's, it's, it's fine. I just want to be clear that, that, that it was, you know, for once. It wasn't me. For once, it wasn't me. Don't do that for once shit right now, Chris. I don't have the patience for it. I'm glad that we've corrected it on the record here. It's important to know when you're wrong. That's right, brother. Somebody also sent me a message on Instagram. Not a correction, more of just a plead. This is from somebody who I'm not going to say the name of. Hear me out. Some food for thought. I'm a woman in my early 30s. Nope, I'm out. I have some advice for my male peers that I want you to discuss on your podcast. The boys need to know about Viagra. I was recently on a trip with my bi best friend. I'm really out now. Bi male. You're saying she has a male friend who's bi. We all know that's fake. All it says is...

my bi best friend didn't say what gender we were talking about okay and we got some over the counter in the uk not to each other is what this person clarified with but just for recreational use he took some went to a late night dalliance and when he returned he exclaimed my dick feels 17 again and put on the last waltz version of muddy waters is i'm a man I like that. That's pretty good. That's actually pretty cool. I wouldn't have read this if it didn't deliver a little bit. Okay. As a woman trying to date chopped and unk men in their mid-30s, something's got to give. Your listeners are a prime demographic for this and need to hear it. I believe the male loneliness epidemic could be solved with this little blue pill. Please use your platform to get the soft boys to start juicing. Wow, there's so many cool buzzwords in here. I don't think there's any person that listens to this podcast or maybe any podcast that isn't aware of Viagra. I think it's not. You know what I mean? I don't think that's like a... That was a cultural phenomenon. Well, I think people are aware of it, much like other things that plague the Chopped and Unc listeners of this podcast. We're all aware of prostate exams, but we may need a little nudging in that direction. We all know about... performance enhancing drugs but i mean we might have a little sure i mean clarity i think you can get those but i think also that poking and prodding i believe that there are probably vagra alternatives that are available online you know like i feel like i get targeted ads every day for any drug i want from a hymns type service you can go yeah you can go on hymns or whatever that shit i'm sure and just you know 10 minutes later with the virtual indian guy ai doctor and that shit shows up at your house In two days or something. To me, it seems like the issue is people may not believe that they are in need of it or they don't want to have to admit to themselves that they are. I won't talk about this for one more second until Spicy Cubes or fucking Blue Chew sponsors the show.

Because we're, I mean, that's the, that's the, these companies have been specifically targeting this demographic that she's talking about for literally the beginning of podcasting. Like, I feel like those are some of the first pod, Blue Team has been advertising on podcasts for, I mean, for at least 10 years. Okay, well then. At least. Let's, let's hold out for just literal Viagra. You know what I mean? That's the check I'm looking for. That's the check I'm looking for. We don't, we don't want any of the, yeah, we don't want any fake shit that they're going to do on, you know, the Adam Friedland show or something. We want the real. subsidized, murderous, Pfizer-regulated drugs. Yeah, I want this to be from an evil corporation, not a cool startup. That's funny, though. I don't want Yuzu Lychee Viagra gummies. Exactly. That's literally... Are these blood orange? Oh, these are so good. Imagine that the Viagra gummies are so good, you eat too many. Like it's a weed gummy? You're bricked up for two weeks? It happened again. I had 11 Tangello Frog Hollow farm bag or gummies. I fucked a hole through a cinder block wall. Goddamn. Oh, my God. I got tennis elbow. That's really, really funny. Because I don't think we're that far off from that if it doesn't already exist and we're just not aware of it. We are. I mean, when I arrived home from Gay Paris, I had a shipment of... creatine gummies on the doorstep are they but are they stupid flavors there's just sort of like blue orange red we got sour peach sound kind of gross oh i'm not a peach guy to be honest you don't want to build lean muscle and improve your recovery as well as cognition with the beautiful flavor of sour peach did you pay for these were they free i didn't pay for them That's what I thought. I'll give it a taste and if my dick gets bigger and my traps get stronger and my cognition gets doper and they pay me 20 grand, I'll let you know the brand. I'm starting to worry, though, that all the stuff that we do doesn't do anything. I'm really starting to worry. Wait, are you talking about ad reads? No, no, no. I'll cut all this right now, bitch. No, no, no. I love ad reads. I'm starting to worry that it's a little bit like, unless it's something extreme,

I just wonder. It's starting to get to me. I take so many pills every day. I don't feel as good as I should considering how many pills I have to travel around with. I think a shot is a different thing. That's a little more extreme. I don't know, man. I'm starting to think that the extreme supplement... of it all is like, I don't know. I just don't know. So it's almost like a miracle cure-all drug that claims you just take a pill and all of your life's problems go away and might not be truthful and factual? Well, I wish it was that. It's not even that. It's like 40 pills that sort of help you in different ways. If it was one pill that was supposed to do everything, I'd snort it. But if it's going to be, I got to take 50. I got to take a fucking tote bag worth of vitamins everywhere I go over the world. It's starting to be like, does it really do anything? Yeah. I think on some level we know what works, and it's like the shit we're talking. It's like Viagra and Ozempic. That's the shit that actually works. Everything else, it's sort of like, I don't know. No, I think about this sometimes because it makes you want, like, I think we were talking about this, I don't know, a couple years ago in the pod where I was saying, like, not not in some any type of woe is me way or my life is awesome way of like i just want to know what my like pain level is compared to the rest of the world people you know say oh the female tolerance for pain is much higher than a man because childbirth but you know try punching a woman in the face and see what you know there's all these arguments about pain and i'm like Am I in pain? You know, how, how am I, how do I rank on the pain scale with my fellow comrades, my same age, weight, height, sex? Yeah, that's a great, I would love to. So like that, that same kind of thing. And then you hear people say like, oh, as soon as I started taking, um, 400 milligrams of zinc every Wednesday instead of 300, it changed everything. So it makes me wonder like how I feel like I'm in tune with my body. what I'm putting into it and how it's making me feel more than the average person. Definitely. But I don't, I don't, I want, I'll take one Tylenol, 10 Tylenols. Yeah, exactly. One of this pill, 11 of this pill. I feel no different whatsoever. Is it working? Who fucking knows? This is what I mean. The stuff that works is perks. Like it's like the shit, the shit you think works, works. The other stuff, I mean, I think it's also just like.

it's i don't know man it's like the instagram ads i think it's just like we're all searching for something to make us feel better i started taking psyllium husk and my my bald spot started growing back and you just you just hear all this weird shit all the time you know but it's it's the same thing as like you know do i really need to put my seat belt on on the airplane when it's gonna crash you know like you can go down the line but imagine if they marketed a pill imagine if they marketed a pill to women that said it would make your titties bigger You know what I mean? Yeah. I watched the substance on the plane. Do you think a woman would take that? I think she would probably be like, I'll just either get plastic surgery or I won't. I'm not going to take a pill. You know what I mean? I'm not going to like. I don't know. I mean, unless it was like wildly expensive, I feel like everyone would be more into taking a titty pill than going under the knife. But the problem is, is that the pills are getting so expensive and there's no proof that it works. That's the issue. That's what I'm saying. It's like, not that it compare, obviously it doesn't compare to a. Breast augmentation surgery. It's much less than that. But I just mean, once you really start looking at this shit and you're like, wait, how much do I spend a year on fucking supplement? Like, what? Like, it's not cheap. It's not that cheap, I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, I wonder, moving forward, we might have to start having, like, the field of supplement and peptide accountants are going to rise. People who specialize in, you know, drug accounting. Yeah. I wish I had a drug accountant. I mean, maybe I should tell my dad that that's what he should get into as in retirement. You know, just take on a few clients, just only do their drug budgets. It'll be pretty mellow for you overall. Imagine your dad calling you asking for help with an accounting question that he's like, all right, so I got my client here. He's got all these Venmo transactions for ski trip. And I don't know how, I think I know what he means, but I don't know what category, you know. Just say, if you just have a few minutes, we can hop on Zoom if you got time.

Yeah, I don't. All right, so let's, I would like to. He takes a lot of big bear trips. I want to talk to you about this. We just, we left Paris. It was your first time. And I feel like as a person who knows you, you know, very well, I feel like you had a really good time and it kind of warmed my heart. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot. Because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture, repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. You can search for a tasker based on cost, skill set, availability, and past client reviews so you know exactly who's showing up and can have confidence that they know what they're doing because taskers have assembled over 3.4 million pieces of furniture, completed 700,000 home repairs. handled 1.5 million moves, and the numbers are just going up, Jason. Yeah, throw a little money at the problem. It's not so expensive. And that job that you really don't want to do is something that another person out in the world is very good at doing and would gladly do it in exchange for a little bit of money. So when life happens, your to-do list grows. Get ahead of it now and get $15 off your first task at TaskRabbit.com or grab the TaskRabbit app using promo code how long taskers book up faster, especially for same day tasks. So book trusted home help today. That is $15 off your first task using promo code howlong with the TaskRabbit app or at TaskRabbit.com. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down.

The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Oh, it warmed your heart that I was Paris Pilled? Yeah. You think you liked it? Wait till fucking Carolyn heard that I enjoyed it. I just was like, I could tell that you liked it. Instantly, I could tell. And usually I'm used to you not liking it. So it was a pretty stark difference. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why. I mean, maybe... A lot of it is rooted in the fact that we were sort of flown out like the fashion princesses that we aren't and treated well. And I felt just riding high off of that endorphin of business class and car service and hotel where you don't put your credit card down and life is but a dream. All you have to do is put on the Loewe and drink champagne. it was it was an easy situation to have a fun time in but i really did like the city of paris how it flowed i think they were sort of you know not they weren't smitten with me but they were tickled by my personality type the french are kind of like a kooky you know not everyone but the ones that aren't assholes are kind of a a kooky weird irreverent bunch at their core and despite the language barrier that i have you know me saying excusey every time as I'm riding by them on the bicycle instead of pardon but I really loved it yeah it was great I know I mean I know three I probably know three French people I like so I'm glad that you found that many I haven't been going there for 10 years but no I just I had a good time I had a great time too it's not I just like

I really find it to be the way people love it. I've just never been able to relate to, I think is the issue. Of course it's great. It's beautiful. It's, it's like clean. Everything's, you know, it's a pretty high quality of, of product across the board. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, you, you kind of get, you get all the, the, the majesty and romance of a Rome without the just. 40 billion of the worst tourists you've ever seen taking it over. No, go there in July, see what it feels like. Obviously, there's tourists in Paris as well, huge tourist city, but it just felt different and more spread out and easily avoidable. Yeah, it's a lot bigger. It's like people coming to LA and complaining about it, about the tourism, but they just hang out at the Grove and the Hollywood Walk of Fame or something like that. And everyone who knows, you don't hang out at those places. No, but I had a good time too. I mean, even though I feel crazy, I'm glad we went, and it was fun. Thank you to the Loewe family, and hopefully we'll be back. I really want those shoes, the men's shoes. Yeah, the men's shoes that kind of look like the rock climbing shoes. It's an approach shoe. It's really happening right now. Yeah, the approach shoe. Yeah, Loewe, once you get the basketball player sizes in, I like the purple, and I like the brown. Yeah, unfortunately, Brett Fiaz. brent faez doesn't wear a 17 i think he's a regular i didn't check i didn't check with brent but yeah i guess there weren't any ballers there at the show it was just me at the top it's just jeans the only the only ballers at any show now are k-pop stars that we don't recognize i swear to god i was talking about this last night i was talking about this last night i swear to god every event of any kind i go to there is a massive crowd losing their fucking minds for a k-pop star that i don't know anything about it's starting to make me feel crazy because i know the big ones i'm not like totally shut off from this you know what i mean i like know i know who's who to some extent but i think because it's such like a factory model they're just they're just coming out so fast you can't keep up yeah and there there are entire worlds full of superstar korean acts and performers that that you and i will never know of course of course no but i and i'm i'm i'm fairly tapped in with with the the music scene

But, you know, I couldn't I couldn't name a single member of a spa. But well, yeah, what I'm saying, what I'm saying is there's there's the ones that don't ever make it out of Korea. But then there's so many that make it to Paris and Milan and New York and London. And I still I can't keep up with those either is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Like I like I thought I mean, this I saw something I've never seen before, which is fascinating to me, is that so across, you know, whatever, across from us. whatever there was there was two content creators one with like a you know like a cool handy cam vintage vibe content spelled with a k vintage vibe you know video camera and one with like sort of a not super long lens but you know a nat nat geo style like we're getting the shot giraffe eating and they were both they were both this this then the way they show lasted whatever 15 minutes maybe And they, the entire time, were taking picture and video of their boss, who is some sort of K-pop star, of him watching the show. So they have a thousand digital photos and 15 minutes of raw footage of him watching models. It just seemed crazy. It was like, how much of this can you use? You cut it a couple times, but what are we talking about? And these are two people that are sitting in the center of the show, taking up... very valuable real estate. Yeah, this could be, yeah, exactly. These people, because there was a little press corner full of photographers with their lenses shooting all the looks. But these were two people that were occupying, you know, very prime seating at this prime fashion show. I think when you get up to this level, you can be like, I need to come with six people. and it's like all right fuck it let's go do it we'll see you there tell jim fallon to kick rocks all good we'll sit we'll sit we got seats for you but yeah um i got i got back last night and i um i went to equinox and then i went to go see cat power at the um at webster hall she was doing the greatest which is one of my all-time favorites and um i was i took nathan pemberton with me

and as a fellow he's a you know he's a guy from florida he understands we were in there he's an older ladies too we were we were in we were in like the whatever you know that balcony there's like a balcony on the left that's like the quote-unquote vip balcony which much like most venues it's actually a terrible place to watch a show but it is i guess it's better but i i whatever you don't have to smell the regulars the point is we were looking around i was like damn this is like all of these sort of like baddies that are four to seven years older than us are here. They're just that much older than us and they all look good. It was just a very certain kind of like Max Fish graduate crowd that I expected sort of, but then it was like, I was talking to Chrissy Miller and she had all these friends there with her and I was like, wow, you guys all are just like good looking 45 year old women with careers that are happy to see their friend. I don't know, it was kind of heartwarming in a way. It was heartwarming in a way because sometimes you go to those shows where the crowd is your peers and you're like, oh man, hell no. Like you try to go see fucking American Nightmare and Indecision at Brooklyn Monarch and it looks like a fucking... plumbing union meeting. You know, this at least looked like, this looked like it should look, like all the Levi's fit right. You know what I mean? It was the right page. Everything was right. The guys looked cool. Everybody looked good. It was just a nice... Old bitches winning. Old bitches stay winning. I've been to so much of this stuff in the past couple years and I'm always like, damn, is this what I look like? And this time I was like, I hope this is what I look like. They said it's some good pussy under this ex-girl jumpsuit. You don't want to see us under here, big boy. But the... voice i couldn't believe it she sounded so good like it was honestly awesome because i just feel like it's such a she has such an iconic singing voice and if you know it it really sticks with you and it's just hard to maintain that after touring for 25 years or whatever you know more she's probably been touring for 40 years very cool that you're able to celebrate this on the eve of international women's day one of one of the greatest women's pun intended literally no literally should have said that to her

Yo, Kyle Power, you're one of the greatest women's out right now. You're one of the greatest women's out. But yeah, I'm glad I got to go and I'm glad I got to hear Lived in Bars. I haven't heard that live since the first tour. So it was fun. But the whole thing was a really funny exercise for me. And then I had to leave and walk home. killed my feet but that's a whole nother issue what shoe did you use what shoe was it was it this time chris see the problem this is what i do i get off the plane i'm like you know what i should wear something comfortable because i'm gonna walk 50 blocks you know from my house to to webster hall i know how far this is and then every time i'm like you know what i'm just gonna put on some i put on my saman amel boat shoes which i love but they're not distance walkers they're not hokas they're not nordas they're not you know so i just i'm paying for it today those shoes you put on for walking the plank not for not 50 blocks in them hatton no it was it was a mistake on my part but i at least they look good with my jeans you know you keep fucking up don't you i keep yeah i mean i'm sad i missed the cat power the greatest is a great album you are free or moon picks i don't know both of them they're all i mean i think that you are free i've probably listened to more but the greatest i i got into at a more pivotal time in my life, I think is probably the way I would put it. I need to start DJing He War in the club. Dude, please, please put on He War at the club. Please. The heads would know. It's a little bit of an indie sleaze bop for the older heads. It is. I think it is too. I mean, we were talking about the Manhattan video where she's in the top of the tourist bus and they're just like driving through the city and how like, I was talking about it with Katie and Kevin because I was like, this is so genius and it costs.

You know, it's like one of those video ideas. It's just good. It didn't cost any money because we were talking about like music videos because Kevin did that video with Caleb that costs no money and it's really good. And I was like, yeah, that's what that reminds me of is that people used to do shit like that. And now it's sort of like you either do nothing or you're one of the five artists that can spend a million dollars. There's no in between really. Yeah. Don't be sleaze unless you are ready to get indie with the budgets too. Dead ass. We need to talk about the Herald Stylish as well. I've had some more time to digest. And, um, I'm sort of having some TJ style, Audrey Hobart feelings about it where like the single didn't do anything for me, but there's three or four on here that I, I like quite a lot. And were you swayed by the kiss all the time? Disco occasionally pop up powered by American express that could sway me, you know, but I didn't do the line in Paris was literally wrapped around two blocks. I feel like it's, I mean, God bless. And I didn't use my car to get access, unfortunately. Okay, so the single, the first one that came out, obviously you were not loving it, but then you're digging in a little bit. There's three or four songs that are quite good. And it's still not hitting for me like the rest of them, but there's a song called Taste Back that is very, very good. What is that song about? Do you know? Oh, I don't know. Is it about long COVID? i don't think it is i'll i'll get on i'll get on rap genius later i'm eating i'm eating this peanut butter and jelly and i can't taste the thing well i was talking about with sha just right because he's writing the pitchfork review and he was like i think that song actually kind of sounds like phoenix which is obviously complimentary um and i i sort of i sort of hear that now but phoenix is like if lcd sound system was good so it all makes sense right But here's what really blew my top off is that I was reading – there's a New York Times story. Sorry if LCD Sound System got laid. Carry on. They've gotten laid. They're just underage. I was listening to – I'm sorry. I was reading a New York Times story about Kid Harpoon, the producer, who works on all the Harry Styles albums since the beginning, and he's worked with a bunch of people. And it's – you know, he's –

I didn't know this, but he was sort of in a band that opened for, like, the Libertines. Like, you know, he's very close with Florence Welch. You know, he's, like, from that. He's exactly my age. He's 43. He's, like, from that era of London. And he's sort of talking about how he, like, was, you know, he's doing all this stuff. He's doing all this stuff. And then he, you know, started seeing a therapist and was trying to figure it out. And, like, sort of was, I think the takeaway from the therapist was, like, you should. do this you should figure out what to do for the love of it instead of like the work of it all you know like you don't have to write songs like you don't have to do this every day like a job if you don't want to is basically what the the takeaway was and he got super into modular sense and bought all the crazy and taught himself how to use it so He's responsible for this. He's responsible. I think Harry started doing Molly and going to Bergheim. I was like, this is sick. And at the same time, his producer had spent $250,000 on modular synths and figured out how to use them. And then they went to the studio in Berlin and this is what we get. I didn't realize that was such a part of it because the story was so like Harry just decided to do something different. It was like, oh, I think it was really influenced by this producer he's worked with for years. Okay, Kid Harpoon, our 43-year-old king from Kent, England. I want to know because I have not heard the album. I'm familiar with modular synths for our listeners at home. It's like synthesizers. You'll see videos of people doing it. They got all these weird wires and cables and doohickeys. Things look like they're made out of a wooden box. It's extremely cool looking. It's extremely cool looking and seems very hard to do. It's very hard to do. It's a pain in the ass. Requires a good amount of money, time, attention. And I'm sure meth works out well with it. But my question is, so the Harry album, I only heard the main song. And it did not sound as if you needed a quarter million dollars worth of modular synth gear to make this. When I think modular synth, you're thinking Autecher and Apex Twin and these crazy manipulated alien sounds that can only be made by these crazy patch cables and blah, blah, blah. So does it sound as if... No. Okay. No. What I'm saying to you is I think it may be the process of him learning it opened their third eye to what is possible. I'm not saying they necessarily exercised all of the...

the things that they could have with the technology. Okay, okay. I think it was more like just a different way to make music, you know, than they're used to or whatever. Sure. But yeah, it does not sound like, it does not sound like Apex Twin. I mean, not that it sounds like Apex Twin, but just more so, you know, it could be a standard pop song. I'm not expecting it to sound like some insane fucking Detroit techno from 1991 or whatever, but more so just like... Does it have some unique kind of analog flavor to it? Or does it just sound like it could be made with massive plug-ins? No, there's definitely some flavor to it like that, for sure. A little bit of squelch? Any of the squelch would go over the fans' heads, you know what I mean? But this one song, I think this one- Alternative arpeggiation? This one particular song, I'm like, wow, this is really, really fucking good. And I was so happy. to hear it you said that song's called lick back taste back what's it called yeah it's it's called get my lick back it's featuring big x the plug and it's um it's yeah yeah it's good it's kid harpoon it's kid harpoon and dj toomp they kind of got together on this one too it's really it's something okay it's really something i'm looking at the track listing track number seven polo dadan polo dadan's on it i was just thinking about polo dadan um so many musical mentions on this episode it's gonna be hard to choose a song polo polo the don got oh god that man has some slaps oh boy good off polo dick okay uh track number seven season two weight loss do you know what that means uh no don't know anything about it i i like american girls of course it's not a tom petty cover um taste back. And there's one other one I like. I can't remember which one, but yeah. Uh, I haven't read anything about it either. I haven't, I've just, I've seen a couple of reviews here and there and it's very, I feel like it's very, I love this or I hate this, which I sort of respect that kind of response. I think that's cooler than like a six. I'd rather you'd be like, this is the worst show I've ever heard. Or I love this. I can't believe how good it is. He's taking swings. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't think this will ever get as much play as, as the other two for me, but I, I'm, I'm being,

I think, I don't know. I'm pleasantly surprised after listening to it that there was at least a couple songs I liked. Okay, I used AI technology to learn that season two weight loss is a metaphor about the common TV trope. When a TV show becomes successful and returns for a second season, the actors often look noticeably fitter and more polished, having better resources to trainers, nutritionists, stylists, so the characters come back looking like upgraded versions of themselves. Huh. That's funny. That's a funny thing. That's a funny turn of phrase then. So is he saying that this whole time was just season one and season two starting now with the synth? Damn, bro. He's not that young. I'm sure it's a metaphor for Olivia Wilde or something that we couldn't possibly understand. She did come back with different titties. Okay, so as we're members of the culinary space, we should talk a little bit about Rene Redzepi. I didn't read it because I couldn't care less. uh about what is happening at Noma but was he a mean did he are they saying he like punched motherfuckers in the kitchen I have I have I did not read the whole whole thing yet but I I have a paragraph please a few paragraphs but I have a a small excerpt of the of the piece on a February night in 2014 in the middle middle of a busy dinner the acclaimed Copenhagen restaurant Renee orders the entire kitchen staff to follow him outside into the cold. He was showing a sous chef, sorry, he was shoving a sous chef in front of him, a young man who put on techno music, a genre that Mr. Red Zeppi dislikes. Well, well, well. Okay. Okay, so he started putting on techno in the production kitchen while they're fucking, okay, so. which is far away from the dining room where unpaid interns work 16-hour days performing tasks like picking herbs and cleaning pine cones to adorn the celebrated Nordic dishes. Mr. Red Zeppi. Taunted the chef over and over as about 40 cooks in short sleeves and aprons formed the usual circle around the two men. It was not the first time they had been forced to participate in this public shaming, according to two chefs present. Mr. Redzepi escalated the attack, punching his employee in the ribs and screaming that no one would go back inside until the chef said loud enough for all to hear that he liked giving DJs oral sex.

His coworkers stood in silence until they're breathlessly, until he breathlessly complied. Bro. Then they filed back into the kitchen and returned to work. You could have found a chick that would just say that because that's what she feels. Like, you don't have to do all that. No, that's actually fucking crazy. That's insane. And even more offensive, we learned that the LA tasting meal that runs for whatever it is, $1,500 ahead, apparently the... The tentpole ingredient or the star featured dish is cactus. God, that's like going to Los Tacos. That's the only vegetarian option they got. I ain't paying $1,500 for that. I'll eat a taco de nopal any day of the week, but I don't want to spend a month's carno on a fucking Hellcat having seven different expressions of a cactus. That story is, I mean, now I have to read it. I mean, I didn't know it was, I mean, I just don't. You hit him with a little kidney shot. and reindeer blood for a week. I just wonder if, I guess when this kind of stuff happens, it's been a little while since one of these came out, I feel like, but when it happens, there's usually two sides of like, this is so unbelievable, I can't understand it. And the other side is sort of like, yeah, this is how it works in restaurants. There's no sort of nuance to it, really. It is clearly bad, but what you were just talking about of the two schools of thought. and i think it really is defined by a certain age range cut off and you know every every chef will say especially in rod zeppi's position and age that's all we knew growing up you know my boss and their boss's boss would do all this stuff and this is what we know you know david chang has talked about it all these other chefs have talked about you know that's just what you learned and you're a product of your environment and you don't do it anymore which is some I was served a video on Instagram a few days ago, and there was a guy who was complaining about this video of some hardcore band playing, and there was a girl standing on stage with a camera all in the singer's face, shooting flash photography, and the singer smacks the camera away. Yeah, I've heard about this. The guy was whining and complaining about the livelihood of the photographer.

The band should be grateful that they're creating content for them for free and blah, blah, blah. And I said, I commented on the post saying like, sometimes you got to smack the camera or whatever, you know, whatever it is. And I got a lot of replies. And it is young people who do not understand, you know, how a situation like that works. And they really look at it as if you having a camera. allows you to have a VIP wristband pass to go wherever you want and do whatever you want. All doors in the world should open up to you if you have a camera. And that's just not the way I believe it should be. Half the people are defending me and they're all older people who are hardcore regulars. And then the young people... are saying, you know, it's fucking bullshit. And, you know, it's really a fucked up, ignorant take that you think that sometimes you got to smack the camera or whatever, or smash the camera. I mean, it's just sort of, it's just sort of like, if you're going to put yourself in that position, anything can happen. And you just got to be prepared. I don't know. It's not, I don't feel either way, but like, I don't feel either way about it. It's more just like, if you want to take pictures on stage of a hardcore band, that is a possibility of that happening. And if it happens, it's the same thing. That's just kind of it. You see video in LA every weekend. They'll take over a random intersection. They'll start whipping donuts. Everyone's partying. People run out into the middle. Sometimes a guy gets hit by a car. Sometimes you go in the mosh pit of a concert and somebody kicks you and you lose a tooth or you get a black eye. And that's sort of, you know what's going to happen. And if you bring a camera to a hardcore show and you put it in the face of a hardcore band. If you're on stage with a hardcore band and you're not like, built like a truck or doing backflips off the front of the stage you got no reason to be there unless you're playing an instrument that's just that's just how it is but that to me that's also the beauty of a hardcore show environment where it all polices itself yeah there's no security because they can't do anything about it you know it's it's even when turnstile plays tiny desk somebody's doing a mosh you know somebody's jumping off somebody's doing it someone's gonna do it and if you if you don't if you don't know the rules of how a hardcore show works

They'll show you real quick. That's a cost of doing business. I think working in a kitchen doesn't mean you should get punched in the ribs. You should get made fun of for listening to techno. That's fine. Yes. But the physical violence part is probably a bridge too far for even me. Not as a bridge too far. Whip them with the towel. Call them a pussy. They call you a pussy. You live to do a bump in the alleyway another day. Making you say in front of your coworkers that you suck DJ dick is unfortunately very funny, but that is wrong. That is wrong, and I cannot get behind that, but I can't not laugh. It's very Parker Posey. you freshman bitches kind of yeah it's really it really is it really is like it really is hazing the people who have gone through it and survived it are able to laugh and call the young people who haven't gone through it pussies but you know i see both sides the problem with this the problem with this noma thing is that it's i would say years late Like Noma's not real. You know what I mean? There's a point where this really would have made waves and been a big deal. And I think now it's sort of like, oh yeah, Noma. You know what I mean? I don't think anybody's thinking about it. Everyone is okay with sunsetting Noma and Rene Redzepi at this point. He's already injected and extracted all of the resources out that he's going to get. He still can make lots of money for the rest of his life, but he doesn't need to anymore. Yeah, and he's also, I mean, the damage he's done to the pine cone population. I didn't want to get into it. I don't know if we're going to come back from it. Lives have been lost. This is absolute destruction of an entire species, Jason, that grew wildly. It was free. It was a resource for all of us. All the dickless reindeers running around the Scandinavian forest. That's crazy. What are we going to do? What are we going to do? All right. Yes. How long gone? Thank you guys for listening. Thank you again to Loewe for bringing us to Paris. We had a great time. If you want to buy my inflatable claw invite, I'm accepting offers on Instagram DM. Between $5 and $10, we'll probably get them done. Also, shout out to the...

Our Montezuma family. What a great place. I really liked it. I had never been there before. Montezuma, the wine bar. Everybody else had, but I really liked hanging there. Two nights in a row. It felt like cheers by the time we were leaving. It was our tenants of the trees, wasn't it? Well, the guy that worked there did look like you quite a lot, which I loved. He did. He was jeans maxing at the. He was jeans maxing. He was jeans maxing, man, a few words, very polite though, which I appreciate it. Um, yeah, I guess that's it. Uh, we're back with, we have some real, um, powerful females this week, powerful women on how long gone. I noticed powerful women. mostly in the food space, or we're going to be featured all through the month of March, actually. Yeah, who knows, man. You know, when it rains, it pours. And thank you to all of our women. So all that is to say, our apologies to Al and Polly in advance. To all of our friends that turn it off when it's a woman, where we apologize. Sorry that we like to host all types of people on this show. All of our listeners who are so straight, they don't want to hear a woman talk. Yeah, so there's a few, the few the proud, because I don't think that's most of them. Thank you for listening. Howlonggone.com is the website. We'll be back next week with more podcasts. And that's it. Thank you, Jason. Au revoir. The right window treatments change everything. Your sleep, your privacy, the way every room looks and feels. At Blinds.com, we've spent 30 years making it surprisingly simple to get exactly what your home needs. We've covered over 25 million windows and have 50,000 five-star reviews to prove we deliver. Whether you DIY it or want a pro to handle everything from measure to install, we have you covered. Real design professionals. Free samples. Zero pressure. Right now, get up to 45% off with minimum purchase. Plus, get a free professional measure at Blinds.com. restrictions apply.