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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. Jason, is that you? How long gone? The sun is shining in New York. The temperatures have fallen just a little bit. There's a fall. you know, chill in the air, which I'm not mad at if I'm keeping it a whole buckaroon-y with you, Jason. Okay, okay. Well, it's the same thing over here. You absolute bellend. We just got back from a lovely light lunch at the River Cafe. Nothing says light lunch like a pizzette. Do you know what I mean? When I think of light lunch, that's one of my favorites. Are you being sarcasm? No, I would never. Are you being sarcasm? I am a little bit, I have to say. Even though the pizza is quite thin, it does feel like a little bit of an indulgence at lunch. It is thin. I think it is topping dependent. And although my pizza was- What was the- Yeah, topping dependent is right, bro. What is the- I've been reading Ryan O'Connell's book too much. Oh, bro. Reading Ryan O'Connell's book really made me be like, you gay guys really are demented. It's some twisted shit in these books. Sorry for the ass-eyed, but even Ryan mentioned that when you're a kid growing up in the 80s or 90s and people would talk about how homosexuality would be considered a mental disease. He was like, I met some gay guys from Boston and Chicago and Provincetown who

I started to understand that claim a little bit more. Yeah, he wouldn't put that. I'd put it on him too, but that's a different conversation. Those are the words of him, not us, of course. We do not have the authority to speak on tops or bottoms. No, we don't. But yeah, the Pete set was petite and it was light and perfectly cooked, of course. And even though there was some sage and some kind of wilted greens on top, as well as some capers and I think even some small, thinly shaved lemon, there was also... kind of like a telegio style of cheese on it. It's not super funky like a blue, but it has some stink to it, and it has a little barnyard chew to it as well. You love a barnyard chew, historically, from what I remember. Not crazy, not an overpowering barnyard chew, just enough to get the palate wet. That reminds me of the baseball gum, the little, what was that called? What are you talking about, big league chew? Big League Chew, yes. Barnyard Chew, Big League Chew. There's something going on there. I'll pack a lip right now, bitch. Don't test me. I'll put a fat-ass lip of Big League Chew. You used to love to pack a little Big League Chew. Now that everybody's in, I think they forgot about Big League Chew. I bet sales are down. Yeah. When we took the train over there and then kind of walked along the River Thames, she's seen better days. popped in and then one of the cooks who was working there came out when we were walking in and said that he was a big fan of the pod and we had a little chit chat so shout out to you I forgot or actually we didn't exchange names even better but as it was funny as we were walking away from each other him back to the kitchen and me to the dining room he just yelled out the word parasocial as he walked away and I was like that It was great. I wish every interaction could be like that. I love that. Whoever you are, cook at the River Cafe. We need more of you. Shout out to you, big bro. Well, I mean, back here stateside, I just, I wanted to put you, I know you're kind of, you know, you're not really paying attention to what's going on. You're enjoying yourself in London. It's a different country. Things are different. I'm paying attention. I know about the Met Gala and Spencer Pratt and hentai virus. The list goes on. Well, I was going to say, because I texted with,

One of our friends this morning, Marjorie Taylor Greene. What's that old bird up to? Well, she let me know that this new virus that's coming from the cruise ships, guess what will fix it, Jason? It's going to blow your mind what's going to fix it. A Republican Congress. Ivermectin. We're back, baby. All the stash you got from COVID, you can bring that back out of the garage fridge. Let's start taking that shit. Okay. So it turns out the ant spray also kills the roaches, and it also kills the spiders, huh? Look, for those of us who refuse to lock down, mask up, and get vaxxed, took the good old horse paste, and also developed natural immunity. Hell yeah, brother. We're back, baby. Another disease has come forth. to divide our already cracked nation. Yeah. Can't wait. You can't wait. And they can't wait to line the pockets of Big Mectin once again. I think the national or the world narrative and opinion about Ivermectin has really shifted since the first pandemic that we went through in the 2020s. Now we're on number two. i think everyone is kind of cool with ivermectin and we're kind of saying like no biggie like and unfortunately like joe rogan is sort of primarily responsible for spreading awareness about ivermectin i mean i think now that we're in a it's the same thing as ketamine it's like when you were raving in high school they're like dude that's like horse tranquilizer there and what the fuck and if you when you give it to humans it makes you high that's so great it's the same thing like this is horse shit too but that you know now we have you know heads of state doing ketamine therapy and shit. Things have changed. I've never taken ivermectin. I hope I never have to have that touch my lips. Well, I'm sure you can get some at Costco. Use your membership. I'm sure I can. I'm sure I can. I mean, I don't want to ever, but... I don't think I would have a problem. I don't know what the downside is, right? I mean, I'm sure there's a downside besides being associated with bozos. I think there's probably some medical downside. Ask your doctor before you take ivermectin. Hantavirus is, I mean, yeah, whatever. I'm not paying attention to this. We will never lock down again, mark my words. But I see here in the responses to this tweet from...

marjorie taylor green a true anon pod has has commented cbd also very effective at mitigating symptoms so if there's something a little more something a little more palatable for you you daily chiefers maybe get some of that the cbd the non-alcoholic marijuana is there is there something that fucking the og kush can't do at this point definitely not bro no og kush that's that fixes it all that that will fix anything it's a good segue into um THC talk because I've been having some trouble sleeping, you know, time zones and this and that and blah, blah, blah. And I realized last night when we were talking to David's show, I'm going through a tree talks, a good old fashioned tree talks. I mean, are you drinking enough? I feel like when you're there, I might not be drinking enough. I might not be. Yeah. You need to put down more. I've been drinking a good amount. Well, who's to say what's a good amount, though? You know what I mean? You have a big tank. It costs over $100 to fill that thing up. You know what I mean? Obviously, I'm not drinking enough because of the night terrors that come every evening. But I don't know. Because when I got into Paris and I linked up, like I said, with a friend of the show, Brodinsky, he handed me his little spliff, passed me the doja over, and I was like, oh. Thank God I get to enjoy some international kush, but a French spliff compared to my Cali kush. No, bro. That shit is a cigarette. That's just a cigarette. I got the same amount of head changes when Carolyn gives me half an Advil PM. Yeah, that ain't going to work. That ain't going to do shit. No, French people don't know how to smoke weed. Unfortunately, it wasn't loud enough. Yeah, they don't know how to smoke weed. They're good at DJing and stuff, but they don't know how to smoke weed. But Brodinski is so good at smoking. He lived in Atlanta for a good amount of time. He knows what the pack is, and I just feel bad that he's not able to access that in his native land. It's possible that he maybe doesn't want that after that experience, though. You know what I mean? He could have...

He could have cushed too hard when he's in the lab with Ray Schrimm, and it kind of caught up with him. He was in Kodak Black's Fort Lauderdale and cares to return never again. You know, there's not a lot of things I'm scared of, but smoking weed in a studio with Kodak Black is something I'm scared of. I don't know if that's going to end well for anybody. It's got anything but marijuana in that thing. Kodak got popped, right? Drug trafficking charges. Sniper again, call that. Cause I got it by myself. Which I would like to believe that he just had enough on me, you know, intent to distribute because I don't think, I mean, he doesn't even know how to tie his own shoes, let alone run a trafficking ring. He ain't distributing. There's no way. No, that's definitely, that is definitely a trumped up charge. He's just like, no, I just do 700 pills a week. It's not, I'm not selling them. Bro, let him, man, let this man, like what? You know if somebody's just, I don't know, I just feel like cops, obviously the stupidest people on earth, willfully ignorant in this situation, but having a zip and a couple and, you know, whatever, 30 perks, that's personal use. We got to be honest about what personal use means. I agree. And I'm reading the article on TMZ. Cops found a bag containing several items, including a bottle of prescription cough syrup. which had kodak's fingerprints on it so yeah no shit drug trafficking for having a bottle of fucking maybe now i mean maybe they're cracking down so hard on the act because i mean i told you i couldn't get it in in la they had the signs up maybe maybe it's it's it's so criminalized now that if you have a but look a bottle of syrup Look, would you break that down into little shot glasses and selling it? Yeah, that's what I was wondering. How are you packaging that? It's like a nutcracker uptown. You do your own packaging. Let me get a dime bag of Tussin. Yeah, you get a dime bag and you got to mix it yourself with Sprite. Or maybe you could do a pre-mix. A little pre-mix might be nice, like a DJ, like cheating. You know what I mean? With Tinashe DJs, it's the same shit. We need a pre-mix.

Okay, it's not an Irish car bomb. It's a Lennox car bomb, we'll call it. Oh, let's go, baby. Jason, cook with that one. Lennox car bomb. Yeah, you buy a little 40 bag of lean, dump that in the Sprite, tip it upside down, get in the Monte Carlo on 22s, and you're going to Bankhead. Let's go. Everyone, get in. We got to go to Benihana. I don't know about you guys. I feel super hungry and bloated right now. If you guys want to go to Benihana, that'd be great for me. We were walking in Paris, and we found the most quaint little street, little center, and they had an old fountain in the middle with some ducks living in the pond. It was the most serene, adorable French setting. Old people eating nuts and reading books and stuff like that. And that's where they decided to put the Benihana of Paris. It was really sticking out like a story. Well, I mean, when everywhere is so, you know, when everywhere is so quaint and beautiful and meant for women, where are you going to put the Benihana? Do you know what I mean? If there's nowhere good, you know, unless you put it inside the airport, I don't really know what the plan is. Maybe that's a good, I was going to think, like, we need a way to save Benihana, but I think they're doing just fine despite being disgusting. Oh, definitely. But I was thinking, like, how cool would it be? be of Benihana was like dudes only I mean well I was gonna ask like as as we as Paris as as I've said many times as a city for women what do you think is the city for men London's got to be up there but what what do you think as as a city you know Sydney what else feels you know, man coded. That's, that's a glamorous still not, not like not Kansas city. You know what I mean? Not rust belt shit. I mean like a international glamorous, you know, city you want to go to, but it feels, you know, 70, 30 men to women as far as who they're trying to attract. I'm going to go with Turkey. This episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian.

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So head to squarespace.com slash how long for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code how long to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Oh, Turkey for sure. But that's not, I mean, yeah, but they don't like women. You know what I mean? I'm thinking of. I mean, it's tough because girls, they run the world, as Beyonce said. Don't ask. There's got to be. Yeah, don't ask homeboy about that. But like, you know, Turkey. Turkey, that's where all the lads go to get their hair done. It seems like they're not into respecting women and their spaces over there. It seems like the fellas got a little Istanbul on lockdown. Somebody on the red carpet asked Paul Anthony Kelly from Love Story what his favorite Beyonce song was. And he said, I don't have one. I listen to metal. Or I'm like, I'm a metalhead. And I've never seen people react. more stupidly to something calling him a racist for not liking beyond like first of all he was like he really might not know be like on the after doing one hour of dumb dumb red carpet interviews at the Met Gala when you're used to being a hot e-com model in Oregon with two kids and then you're running to your seat and they ask you what your favorite Beyonce song is and you're supposed to come up with some cute answer about single ladies or like how you're you know whatever I let this look bro that is not We all don't have to like- I really like the song Partition. Yeah, I don't think we all need to like Beyonce. This Stan shit is so crazy. He's getting destroyed. So are people coming for him saying- Oh yeah, it's crazy. This man is a disgrace for not being able to name a favorite Beyonce song. No, straight up racist. Like this is racist, racist coded how on earth she's the co-host of the night. I'm like, first of all, you think this guy knows what day it is or who the co-host of the Met is? Like you got that wrong. This himbo is showing up to get a fucking, see how many Coronas he can take down before the fucking dessert course. It's not that serious. He's doing it the right way. He's saying that. He's probably not in the comments on Dumois name checking himself. He's probably just like, yeah, I said a thing and I will see you guys next week.

And you guys can argue about it if you want. It's just a crazy. Put yourself in his shoes. If the reporter asks you that same question, you run into your seat at the Met Bala, what are you saying? Are you going to name a Beyonce song or are you going to say something cool? I'm going to name a Beyonce song and keep it moving so I don't get crucified. Name the song. I'm saying, I'm asking you the question, what are you saying exactly? Oh, I don't know off the top of my head. I don't. I don't listen to Beyonce. Okay. But there's one Beyonce song that's sampled Outkast, I think, that I really like. Okay. Do you remember this? Do you remember this? I'm going to look it up because it is my favorite Beyonce song. I mean, obviously, she's got hits, but maybe you're more of a Destiny's Child cat, though, right? Well, that's the answer I would have chambered. I would say my favorite Beyonce song is anything by Destiny's Child because... Destiny's Child is way better than Beyonce. I mean, yeah, that feels like, where is it? What's the best New Order song? Is it Joy Division? Any Joy Division song? You know, the list goes on. One's, you know, it's just, they're both great. They're both awesome. But if you got to pick one. Hold on. Hold on, bro. You're telling me that there's a song on Lemonade called Six Inch featuring The Weeknd? That's crazy work. That's crazy, bro. And you're not even talking about the Converge vinyl or nothing? Nah, that's crazy. I don't know. So I'm trying to look at, I don't know what song I like by Beyonce. So what would you tell the reporter? Camera's rolling. Well, I guess. You would say, I love Beyonce. I love all black women. I just can't name one single song. I guess. I guess Flawless Remix featuring Nicki Minaj is going to be my go-to probably. If I had to, if I was on the spot. You know, the way you said your favorite Beyonce song of all time. Listeners with a keen ear might be able to pick up that it almost sounded like you were reading it off your computer screen. I was. Instead of just saying it from memory. I was 100% reading it. I don't know this shit. I cannot find this song I like. This sucks. There really is a Beyonce song I really like, and I'm not seeing it anywhere. Well, and you missed your seat, and you missed the first round. Who gonna break my soul? I like that one, too. Who gonna break my soul? I like that one.

That's a little... I like that one a little bit. Okay, so you're more into more of her kind of diva house reworks then. Okay, that's cool. You know me. I'm a diva house guy at the end of the day. I mean, how do you... I mean, we're naming all these dumb songs and, you know, blah, blah, blah. Any fucking... Ladies leave your man at home. That's better than any Beyonce song. Come on, bro. Look, I agree. Dude, I don't like any of this shit. It's crazy. She let James Blake feed. Man, what the hell? Bro. Oh, it's called. I think this is it. Hold on. Let me listen for one second. Yeah, yeah, All Night. Oh, yeah, All Night. All Night, all night. Track 11 on the classic Lemonade album. You may remember the visual album, Jason. I know you're a smoker. Yeah, of course, of course. And that era, there was a lot of random ladies who work in HR and stuff who maybe they decided to wear a gold or a diamond tooth on their birthday that year because of that album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Lemonade was a moment in time. I didn't realize Six Inch by the weekend was... I just can't get over that. What do you think that's about? Bro, I don't know. Subway? I don't fucking know. Maybe he likes... He can't take 12. He needs six when he gets the tuna. This song is about... It's about Abel's eminent weight gain thanks to the Subway. Nah, his weight gain... I shouldn't have franchised. Talk about perks. His weight gain was not from Subway. His weight gain was... Nah, that's different. A little from column A. Shouty a little from column A. Yeah, that's true. What does the song Six Inch by Beyonce mean? It's an anthem of female empowerment, wealth, and independence celebrating hardworking women who grind to earn their success. The six inch is in reference to a heel. So, you know, not only do they have to do all this theme stuff that women do, that men do, they got to do it in heels and period. Well, Beyonce's doing fine. And I think that The Weeknd's doing fine. So everybody landed on their feet except for Paul Kelly. But, you know, I think he'll be okay too. He'll be just fine. But when I was watching him say that, I was like, there's a strong chance that the metal that you are listening to is...

is maybe not going to be as awesome as we want it to be. I'll hold out, but he looks... I'm afraid that... He's so pretty, he's either like a Gojira head, like something real bad. Yeah. Or if he's just like, I mainly just listen to like Dungeon Synth and like Mortis and stuff like that, I'll be like, okay, flat. You're giving him way too much credit. I think Metal to him means... Metal to him means either Deftones, Metallica, or he could be Converge Mastodon. And I know those things sound really close to each other, but they're kind of far away. He's Mastodonian. Mastodonian. Okay. And the type of guys that like that stuff. Okay. He's like early anal cunt. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a guy wearing an ass suck shirt yesterday on the street. Okay. I was riding by. I was like, hell yeah, bro. And I think he thought I was making fun of him. And I didn't have time to turn around and tell him that was a genuine. props like that this cool he's like oh never no one's ever congratulated it was I mean to be fair for my look to be fair it looked like it did look like a aftermarket bootleg it wasn't an original he wasn't at Gainesville Fest 97 or whatever but he wasn't giving train hopper he wasn't giving train hopper he was giving good looking guy with an ASIC shirt but it was still good to see that in the wild of Soho New York okay 2026 i mean i i worse things have have come across my gaze than a than an austin butler asuk fan i know i agreed no that's that's that's actually for two i'll take that's best case for everybody that's best case for everybody exactly yeah we need to write the next great american novel you know hemingway-esque but it'll be a it'll be austin butler he's a crusty train hopper making his way from bend oregon Detroit or something like that. Dearborn, riding the rails. Fucking his way through Idaho. Austin Butler, if there was a store in LA that sold Carhartts with a butt flap, he might have a pair. They'd trick him over at Golden Age, put him in the Carhartts. I'm going to go in this pond over here and probably skinny dip for a while if you want to watch. What does crass mean? Is that a word? Or is that just the brand that's covering my butt?

Oh, God. Speaking of butts, I'm at this hotel in London called the Athos. It used to be a Nobu hotel, but now it's an Athos. It's nice. The one in Shoreditch? Yeah, Shoreditch. Ran into DJ MK. Mark Kinchin here, staying here. Don't mean to dox you, lad. But yeah, it's in a very, you know, I'm in the dime square of London, basically. But it used to be the Nobu, and they did a good job turning it over into a beautiful kind of modern, warm, woodied hotel. But when I was in the locker, the gym is in the bottom floor basement. I hit the gym, hit the sauna, had a steam room, schwitz, hit the cold shower, and then I go back to my locker with all my stuff. I typed in the wrong code and I had to basically crack the locker. Okay. All right. Maybe like 30 times to finally get how I, I typed it in the wrong way, but it was one of like, no one was in the gym. There was not a single phone. And if I left the locker room that I was in, I wouldn't be able to come back in because I didn't have the key card. Because my key card was in the locker. So it was just me and a towel. Oh. Me and a towel only. It was TJ versus locker. TJ versus locker towel edition. Yeah. So I couldn't go. I couldn't leave that area, which had no fun. But basically, I finally got it. But then I get dressed and I realized that I forgot to bring underwear. So I had to free ball it. And I hate to say it's been so long since I free balled. I hate to say it. I kind of liked it. story on the bottom what was my trouser story yeah my trouser tail was was a pair of uh very soft khaki pants vintage khaki well you were wearing them just upstairs you weren't like going out for the night i was not going out for the night no but i did i did walk over to the coffee shop across the street and grab a little little pick me up really quick but i saw all that is to say i had a stroll that was maybe like two minutes okay nice so you test you're testing it you were like you know what maybe i can leave the skims at home

Maybe yes, maybe no. I mean, obviously, I have no intention of not wearing underwear the way you and I probably did when we were 19, I'm assuming. Yeah, I would, no. Did you ever have a free ball face? No, that was for guys that wore Miss 60 jeans. I wasn't doing, I'm a man. It was a little more 18V. Yeah, that's a little more 18 vision. Yeah, I didn't have a flat iron. i didn't have any girls clothes and i never wore makeup i did a lot of that was stupid but those three i missed you did have a thick necklace made out of beads oh yeah i mean stacked from from clav to chin for sure what was on your one king down stack that's for zach bowman uh my one there's yeah there's four people who get that who get that joke and If we were on a Patreon, we would get 10,000 from each of them. My one king down stack was just beads, mostly wooden in nature. So it wasn't mixed media, nothing stainless steel? No, there was. No, no. No stainless steel. That was too hot topic. But you would mix in a black bead as well. And sometimes if a chick made you one, it might have a little color in it or whatever. You know what I mean? Put her stamp on it. All those little Taylor Swift bracelet culture, that's all from emo chicks. That all comes from preschool. Which came from Raver. It came from Ravers. Ravers started it. straight edge people stole it well i mean when i when i was watching taylor swift talk to joe coscarelli and she was talking about how you know the genius lyrics of pete wentz and dashboard professional i was like well i know i know where taylor got it from because taylor wasn't ever ever in the warehouse at 4 a.m peaking that's for sure no no no she was studying with her with with professor cabrera yeah yeah learning i'm living in your letters those are the great scriptures yeah those are the great scriptures honestly like like maybe a month ago carolyn was going through a big dashboard confessional phase and i was like wow i really wish you know chris was here so you guys could talk about this thing that you both like so much because i never really had a dashboard i was too straight to listen to it i'm gonna say that it's actually aged better than most things and i think that he uh

He's sort of a treasure because I think he's just got such a great attitude and he just keeps doing it and it keeps working. And I think every 10 years, new people discover it. It's kind of an enviable career in many ways. He's a Skrillex of emo. And nowadays in 2026, the lyric, your hair is everywhere. Oh. At the time, I was like. Are you guys hearing this? This is what you guys are all in. Like, am I taking crazy pills? But compared to the lyricism of 2026, not counting the Earl sweatshirts of the world, of course. Like, it's a pretty clever little word. Your hair is everywhere. The thing is, he's talking about, maybe he's talking about after he beat it up, her hair was messed up. Or maybe he's talking about some classic, like, yo, my chick found some strands in the bed that weren't. from her you know what i mean it could be it could mean a lot more sinister things than we're thinking you know what i mean it could be uh you know predicting male pattern baldness air you know big dash on top but big dash was too early you know what i mean he's been saying shit he's that could be yeah that could be a line you know that could be from cameron it's so it's so articulate yeah it's so well well put your pubes are everywhere yeah i mean dashboard knows it's a marathon not a sprint he said i'm i'm still spending fucking 90s money he's still spending big face hundreds right now no no he's he's light work light work i think he's i think his i think he has a child that is in college which is crazy It's fucking crazy. He's like, damn, my kid and my girlfriend are both in college. It's so crazy. I also think he's... Just kidding. I wish that was the case. I think he's just like a guy. I think it's just... You know when musicians, it's just like, this is my job and I love it, and they don't take advantage of any of the other stuff that comes with it besides the money they earn? I think he's one of those guys. It's like, yeah, I'm a welder. I weld. I go home to my family. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm so bummed, bro. I have to miss... You're like, so you don't take any free head at all, okay? No, free head. No, free head. I have to, dude, I have to...

miss there's a fucking new brandon flower solo album they're doing a playback tonight Got the invite from the head of the label, and I can't make it, bro. I can't go listen to the new. I saw Ronnie. I had a meeting this morning with Anna from Huxley at the Crosby Hotel. I saw Ronnie from the band, from the Killers, with his family, and it took everything in my power not to approach and be like, what's up, guys? Let's get this going. When are the Killers coming on? How long gone? What is it going to take? I'll pay the bill. Security! I'll buy your kids some fucking orange juice. What can we do? The overnight oats have been paid for. Let's get a date on the calendar now. I just peeled off a 20 for a fucking boiled egg and you're not going to come on the podcast. So I do have to miss it. But Morby's playing a little show at Lucinda's in the East Village, which is like Lucinda Williams opened like a small bar. So I am going to be able to catch that. So I'm excited about that. It's going to be a big night for me. I've gone out every night this week. I'm fucking, I'm seeing double. Same girl. I know, but when I'm on the road, it feels normal. It is. I don't know. I'm not going to sit in a hotel room on a Tuesday night, but I'm going to sit in my own house on a Tuesday night. You know what I mean? Yeah, same. We went to Marcel last night. What is Marcel? It's a new restaurant that's at the Sotheby's in the Brewer building uptown, like across from Gagosi on 72nd, and it is fucking popping, banging, like a big, expensive New York restaurant. It's the La Mercerie people, Roman and Williams. I was very impressed, I have to say. It's a continental restaurant. I thought it was because I'd walked by a few times in the room because Flora Bar used to be there. So I know the room. I used to go there pretty often. I really liked Flora. And it was just a real, it felt like a real, it felt kind of like a less Republican grill. Like it felt a little like. everybody's rich. It's really serious. The service is really good. The uniforms are cool. There's an Elizabeth Payton in the bathroom lounge. It's like, it's just a, but the food was banging. I was, I was a little worried. It's gonna be too fussy for me, but we were able to navigate. I was, I was very pleased. I guess it has a little, the grill meets the Vodor in terms of food and vibes because it has those, those French classics, uh, you know, a little up and really good though. But, um, I'm, I'm seeing,

They have a baba au rum on the dessert menu. Did you get that one? No. We got the Madelins, which came with a jam of some kind. They were delicious. There's a dessert on the menu called The Window. We didn't order it, and I was like, I don't know what this is, and it was so fucking good. I had to ask the pastry chef, like, what is this? Because this shit is too cracking. This is the best window I've ever eaten. Literally. Yeah, I've eaten a lot of windows, and this is by far the best window. What the frick did you put in this window? Okay, it looks good. I was admiring the baba au rum, which is like a dessert that it's kind of like a cake that has rum kind of poured. It's rum soaked into a little whipped cream on top. I saw a guy next to us was eating that and did look delicious, but I did avoid it because of the rum contents. Yeah, that's not edge. But when I was in France at Chez Daniel, I believe, they have like a very... I don't know. It's like a drink policy that I really would like to see more of where you, with alcohol, they leave the bottle and then you kind of like pay what you drank. An honor bar situation, but they have eyes on you. It's an honor bar situation, but when you order the baba au rum, they just bring a bottle of rum with a little pour spout on it and just set it on the table and walk away. And it's up to you how much rum you want to put on there. And they don't charge you extra if you pour extra shots on there. Yeah, yeah. It's just like a fun thing. And I think that we need to have more honor bar-like baller activities like this. You're out of your fucking mind. We can't be trusted in this country. Are you crazy? Well, that's the thing. Somebody put that bottle in their purse. We police ourselves. That's the beauty of it. I mean, obviously, we're not going to do this at B-dub-dubs or Hooters or whatever. you know let's say our you know friend of the show al wilmont his restaurant in la bar de bello it's a small room everyone's drinking they have the the big negroni in the chalice you ring a little bell it's you know it creates a fun environment and it's also it could be a spendy baller kind of move like let me get the baba rum it costs a hundred dollars

yeah you're like oh why does that why does that cost a hundred dollars and like you'll see no that's true they just bring a nice bottle of rum and then it's up to you to pour how much you want on there yeah it was that does the whole room is looking at you yeah it's like yeah sure we start chanting and stuff when you fuck it up so if you only do one glug pussy yeah you do eight glugs you're like that's too much you're getting greedy That's too much. Dude, you're going to get drunk. Yeah, that sounds super fun. That'll really bring up the ambiance in any room. Look, these restaurants need to encourage more fun drinking because alcohol sales are in the tank. Our food sales are being decimated by our true tides. We got to get going. The girls next to us ordered martinis, and they came in these really beautiful glasses. And it was like a different look than I'd seen ever before for a martini glass. It's a different look? I just was sort of like, oh, those are cool looking, and they feel extra cold. Something about it was screaming cold, even though there wasn't a stem to hold onto in the same way that you would. Well, I think a thicker glass. I see. Can hold more of that chill. Okay. You know, like a big heavy beer stein versus that petite kind of window pane thin. I want you to get to the point where you have in the man cave, you got the pint glasses, the steins in the fridge. Oh, yeah. In the freezer. So the fellas come over. I wouldn't mind getting to that point as well. You know what? For your 50th, I'm going to buy you like an acai on tap for the kitchen. I think that'd be a nice gift for you. I was going to say, no, no, no. It has to be the Sapporo Ninja Sword draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carolyn will maybe love it, maybe not. We'll see. It might have to do like a little cozy to go over it, you know? Yeah, yeah. But there was a... Did your mom ever have a cozy to put over kitchen appliances, like a little something to cover the kitchen I ate or the blender or something? Bro, I would say from the time I was 13 to 19, she wanted to put a cozy over me in the house so she didn't have to look at my fucking ass with the fucking LeBray piercing and necklaces on. But no, I don't think. No, we had, luckily in our kitchen in Conyers, there was a lot of storage in that kitchen. So most things were able to be tucked.

in a drawer or a cabinet of some sort no necessito cosito got it no but i think getting you one of those like a like my version would be the the the chameleon cold brew No, the Suntory sparkling water machine. They have it at... At Superiority Burger. At Superiority Burger. It spits out the good shit. You thought you knew about bubbles. Or like on Hacks in her kitchen, Jean Smart's kitchen on Hacks, she's got the fucking, the full soda lineup. She got the Diet Coke that got the different static flavor. Yeah, but the famous, I mean, most famously, there's the Tommy Lee with the Starbucks in his basement. We never, how could we forget that from emptying his cribs? Sure. And those people are still down there living off of... expired cinnamon cinnamon rolls actually we went to the Starbucks today I just went in and grabbed a bottle of water to put some of my magna in and their their offerings are really shitting on American Starbucks like all when you see the little display window of like the little snacks and things you can get and they're just like plastic pictures of food with like dust and flies on them you know yeah let me get that uh let me get that danish that looks delicious let me get that hand danish it was hand painted in 2007 um no but the one just like a random shitty one next to the train station not like a starbucks reserve you know and the wharf or anything like that it was it was all business location full full tins of freshly made cinnamon rolls that are being like cut out with a spatula and put on a plate to order like we're at the the corner bistro or something yeah yeah bro but did you taste one though of course not that's the thing because i'm like i'm like i'm sure that's a nice presentation yeah but i don't i if it don't taste it's still gonna taste like starbucks food it's still gonna taste like cisco you're right or whatever the whatever the the local cisco is Yeah, I mean, not the local Cisco. It's the Cisco local, like the Sainsbury local. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Local. Got a local. So you've been putting down the pints, but you went to this. I saw that you guys went to that Italian restaurant. And, well, what did you think? Yeah, that restaurant was called, hold on, let me look it up. Jago gave you the idea, correct? Yeah, Tiela.

Trattoria. It's a little newish Italian spot. Trattoria and great little neighborhood vibe. We had a really good meal. Quite good. The little kind of chicken broth with some small like little sourdough croutons that kind of soak up the broth. A little parm on top. We got sat at the cute date night table. It's basically like a two top. in its own little nook and corner with like a rounded table and it has a big window overlooking the kind of town square. It's definitely like the best seat in the house, date night kind of thing. And we got sat there. They were nice enough to hook it up thanks to Yago, but there were people sitting right behind us and one of the two diners was speaking. at a volume that was like we were like laughing about how loud it was and she was just saying worse than worse than talking to me it was worse than talking to you but because your voice is very loud but it's more of a lower range frequency so it's a little more you know smooth on the ears versus this higher pitched frequency yeah that can be a little grating you know what I mean So, you know, you're giving boards of Canada and she was giving, you know, death grips or something like that. Thank you for putting it. Square pusher. Thank you for putting it in terms that I sort of understand. The voice is also, her voice is pointed at us, which is then kind of bouncing off the little corner of the room that we're in. And like, we could not hear anything except her. stories of like what happened at work today, you know, like the most inane, boring convo. So the server came over and we, we asked like, Hey, you know, bro. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to say, you tell her to shut up. I was like, damn, you're bold. You're bold over there. No, we, I shot her like the, the girl, like three looks who was talking and she lowered the volume of her voice for like three seconds. And then it went straight back up to like, and then like, I was like, can I ask you a question?

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he referenced something about like, oh yeah, it's a little different than how things are in America. And I was like, how'd you know we were from America? Oh, here we go. And I said it, I was like, how'd you know we were from America? Just kidding, just kidding. Like, obviously you can tell we're from America. He doesn't laugh, he doesn't say anything, just a straight face. And he goes, your shirt. What was your shirt? It was a, it was a polo shirt. Like a regular. Ruffle around polo, button up shirt. It wasn't terrible. I mean, he was joking. He was being sarcastic. He was just fucking with me. But that kind of dry British delivery, and it cuts in a way. I mean, it's funny. Very few Americans can pull off. So kudos to you. Unless you were being completely serious, then fuck you. But he was a great guy. Had a great meal with him. It was quite wonderful. A little pasta fagioli. Love that. I love that. Delicious bread, a nice clam and tomato and garbanzo dish. The olive oil was flowing. A lot of clams, a lot of olive oil, a lot of tomatoes going in my body since I've been in London. And I'm not fucking complaining, mate. I'm not fucking complaining. When we were in Paris, we went to the Charvet store. Yeah. And it got me thinking on a menswear tip. Carolyn got some of the little leather slippies. I got a couple little... silk handkerchiefs for the pocket square. What are you going to do? Wow. You'll be seeing those in New York. Wow. Okay, bro. Go off. Are you being sarcastic or no? Well, I'll have to see it first and then I'll let you know if I'm sarcastic or not. You're going to like my pocket. Do you have any pocket squares or kerchiefs? No, I hate those. I mean, I wear, like with Tom Brown, you have to wear one. Like that's the only time I've ever worn a pocket square, really. Does he hit you if you don't? He wouldn't, but some would be sent to kind of. course correct your behavior you'll be reprimanded you'll be reprimanded somehow yeah but no i just i always found pocket squares they look cool on some people i just don't think i i don't like the flair of it i would say yeah i feel like um since i don't really i love wearing a suit i don't always love wearing a tie and i think it kind of helps dress up a tireless suit look with a splash of contrasting color that no i i agree

pause i agree with that i mean the problem is i go back and forth where if i'm wearing a suit or a jacket i'm wearing a t-shirt or a tie and there's no in between really like unless i'm wearing a denim shirt then i'll wear it with no tie and no so you won't wear like an oxford shirt unbuttoned no not you i mean i've done it before i don't love it i love a denim shirt unbuttoned or i love an oxford shirt or a poplin shirt with a tie. What if you had a denim pocket square? A denim kerchief? Imagine. Oh, that'd really fit in there nice. I'm sure it'd be super comfortable. A little too Mel of Finland for me. Mel of Finland, exactly. That's nice that you got some pocket squares, though. That's the most affordable thing there. Glad you were able to find something that wasn't custom. Hey, I bought two of them, though. I bought two of them. What's that hitting for, big bro? They're like 125 each, I think. Yeah, that's not crazy. But when I was there, we got to go visit the room upstairs where they have all the fabrics. And you can get the made-to-measure suits and pick out the collars and the cuffs and all that. And it was really cool. But they had the suspender room where it was just, you know, a hundred different pairs of suspenders, different colors and clasps and types and buttons and this. And I really... kind of want to try suspender life have you ever done that before no i'm never going to do that i hate that i mean i i think it serves a purpose but what if no one can see i i don't want to walk around like a 1940s boxer i could i could spiritually tell that you're i could tell i could feel it on you particularly because i know you not everyone of course but The woman that was guiding us, I was asking her about the suspenders and blah, blah, blah. And she was saying like, you know, this one's more chic than this one and blah, blah, blah. But she was saying like, also, it is healthier and better for the human body. It's less constricting on the gut. And it's just like, and I feel like because I'm like such a tall, lanky lad.

with not much of a BBL, you know, I really, that belt's kind of doing a lot. Like if I'm not wearing a belt, most of my pants, it's not like they're going to wiggle their way down throughout the night. It's like, it's a free fall. It looks like the twin, like my pants just, not much is keeping them up. So I'm always belted. I like the way belts look though. That's the thing. I like the way a belt looks. That's part of the reason that I like belts. Maybe we can get like a clip-on belt. That's just for show. What if the belt just kind of sat there, just balanced kind of on my waist? It seems so nice to set your pants exactly where you want them to be, and then they are only being supported by gravity, hanging freely off of your strong shoulders, not cinching your gut microbiome and intestine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, on a practical level, it makes sense. It's just dorky if you're not. i would say 60 plus that's the thing it feels like an age gate okay well i'm close yeah you're you're not that far but also what if you what if you're like a badass non-racist parentheses skinhead you got the fucking you got the 501s the suspenders you got a little vintage t underneath that's different that's different and also obviously i cannot pull that off but i'm saying that's one of the most advanced moves that has ever T-shirt with suspenders. Are you saying a rude boy? I am not, Chris. I mean, look, I would love to see you in the Doc Martin 12-I with the white laces and a fucking screwdriver tee, paper thin, tucked into the 501s. I'm giving a little more rancid than screwdriver is the issue here. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, dude, I was listening to Rancid. Ruby Soho, smash. Put that shit on the end of the episode, bro. Ruby Soho, what a great song. You got it. Because last night, no doubt. first show at the Sphere. Yeah. I saw those janky-ass visuals. It was depressing watching that. It made me feel like I was watching something like a Disney adults activity and not like a music concert. I mean, the Sphere is a Disney adults activity. That's kind of the thing. It is, but when you add the note out to it,

maybe because I'm so close to it because I am like the target age range of a lot of those people like it's a bunch of people who are like in their you know millennial folks who have a little disposable income and they are gonna go and they're gonna buy the merch and get a babysitter and we're gonna enjoy the music of no doubt and we don't even have to stand up we can just sit the whole time and watch it on a giant TV screen that is the whole thing about the sphere it just feels as much as i want to go i don't know because anybody who's going to do sick visuals i'm not going to like the music you know what i mean that's the reality of it because i'm not as i'm not i'm not into sick visuals like i don't care um but i that's the whole promise of the experience so i feel like i would have to embrace the sick visuals yeah but that's why no doubt felt like a south a nice in between but it did look a little depressing yeah and also because of her her MAGA leanings, I feel like that's going to greatly alter the crowd type as well. The type of people that would go, or maybe not. I disagree, actually. I think the people that love No Doubt... either are republicans now or don't care about that at all yeah most no doubt fans are like oh finally she's public with the stuff now i don't i really i kind of feel like it's like dude whatever this shit got me through my 20s like i don't give a fuck that she's married to blake shelton and looks like a robot like i don't give a fuck like how i feel about the music of r kelly Got me through my 20s. Exactly, exactly. Taught you a lot. I think that she, you know, I think also the body, look, she can still wear the little tank top. She can still wear the little crop wife beater. I would say most, you know, 50s pop stars cannot do that. Yeah, she finally turned from a 50s style pinup girl to a 50-year-old pinup girl. Did you see? Okay, so there's some stuff going on with women. um just a few so you know billy eilish oh billy eilish premiered something last night and she was on the carpet with our boy nate and uh who wolf who did the pod yeah yeah that people are like what what happened to her gay shit what the fuck she lied i'm like of course she lied and then hayden pantier who you i'm sure you remember from heroes classic program with with uh my boy milo known

Milo, the hot guy who's known for being a real denim enthusiast. I never watched Heroes, but I think I was familiar with some of her earlier work like Bring It On, etc. She's written a memoir come out as bisexual. I'm very proud of her for being able to speak her truth. I just wonder... I wonder if this is going to move the needle for her, if she's going to get a whole new audience because of her sexual liberation. She bi. They say with chicks, what I heard, you got to pick one, bipolar or bisexual. That's what I heard. That's what I heard. And I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying people are saying that. I feel like I know a couple who are both. That's the thing. I was going to say. That's the thing. You can't. It ain't binary. You can be both. You can be both. So you're saying there's nothing binary about being bi? Nah, bro. Let's not try to... We can't box these women in. Let them be both. All the bi's. Look, we are not going to box you ladies in. We're giving you two choices. Yeah, exactly. You got two choices. Which are you? Polar or sexual? Pick one. You're either scissoring... or psycho what's it gonna be scissoring but psycho that's a good that could be the song don't make me change it for rancid now chris oh yeah my bad my bad i won't do that yeah so yeah so billy people want her to be a lesbian or people or just want her to pick one thing i think people want i think that i think that nowadays it's basically like there was a period where every you know pop star woman had to at least you know, maybe not say straight up I'm bi or I'm gay or whatever, but there was a little bit of a, you know, oh, maybe I'm just down for whatever, you know? And now I think people are a little bit like, I think you guys lied to us because of the moment we were in and that was more, that would bode well for you in the public sphere. But I think now maybe we've moved past that. You're getting greedy. Exactly. You're saying like, you know, I want to appeal to everyone and they say no, no, no. I think fashion has a lot to do with it.

where it's just like if if the if the the the paint job don't match what you got under the hood then then people get annoyed and confused because people attach so much of their own personal identity yeah for sure you know of of a musicians to you know if if i really love pink and i'm obsessed with pink i'm probably gonna be dressed like pink you know what i mean i'm probably not going to be wearing whatever the opposite of of lesbian co-worker music i love clothing i love i love pink man pink it's like you look at her you look at her on stage like all right i get it she could also be a fucking you know regional manager at bucky's and there's no it's like it could go either way i don't want sexy red wearing like a tasteful cuckoo intimate set no while she's up there saying fuck your daddy or whatever it is you know so it's confusing So all the cuckoo intimate people are like, who are all these sexy reds? All the sexy red people are saying, I don't know if I want to shop at Brandy Melville. I want to shop at Body by Body. Body Melville. That's their new. They have Body Melville. Body Melville, it's just all the same clothes but in different color camo. That's when you know she's a Body Melville, if you know what I'm saying. Body Melville, it could be on to something. I would like to explore this subject more if we weren't two straight men in their 40s. Body Melville is their answer to Gap's Athleta or to Lululemon. Body Melville is Skims for the Urban Outfitters set. They're coming for aloe check. That's not a bad idea. ASAP Rocky was also wearing an Aloe hoodie this week. Who brought Aloe to the hood? Because the Joe Budden guys wear it. Who is responsible for tricking black men into thinking Aloe is cool? It's a shock. I think it's less of a trick and more of a wire transfer. No, it's definitely not that. It's definitely a trick. I mean, Jimmy Butler is the one getting paid, but I don't know if I really think that like.

There's some, it's sort of expensive and I guess maybe your chick wears it and she puts you on is, is maybe what it is. I don't, I don't think it's actually, I unfortunately don't think it's more sinister or calculated than that, which, you know, kills me. Yeah. But I mean, it's tough because there can be people out there who are so awesome and so great and we love them. And then when you see them wearing aloe, not for a check or even for a check, it makes you look at them a little differently. It's like kind of like, oh, maybe you aren't. it just ain't for men i thought your line was further it just ain't for like you see a guy i mean guys are pulling up in the aloe shoes i mean there's no there's no end in sight there's no line in sight those are people who are like i never need to see a pussy again in my life i mean the problem the problem is i think I have sports betting. They can't even do yoga. Have you seen... You've been in Europe. You maybe haven't been paying attention, but our friends over at the Substack Corporation have launched a video podcast. Do they have a unique subject style? Or is it a new style of... It doesn't look like... I'm watching... I got an email just now. It's called Open Tab. And the first one is with Emily, of course, the goat of Substack. And it looks to be like... her they're at like a bar which i mean the setting is more sort of like cbs sunday morning you know what i mean than it is like theo vaughn which i mean i guess i guess seth um seth myers he does that segment where they go get drunk in a bar but i think they actually yeah this is more i think i would rather see this style though than another like bad studio This is much preferred to me. But are they actually drinking or are they just having like one? There's two. In the clip I'm seeing in the header, Emily and the host both have empty pints in front of them. Okay. And I'm going to assume, knowing Emily, Emily will drain a pint. She ain't scared. She definitely had a pint. But one pint doesn't really. Yeah, but I still feel like it's a better... I just think if everybody's got to do video podcasts, I'm happy for you to break out of the fucking... You would think that so many people would be a little afraid to do that, but I guess it's... I'm sure that they have these ground rules and maybe they'll water the drinks down and limit them to a few. But I was looking at it. I mean, I haven't checked it out, but...

I don't really have any interest. Shout out to Substack. You guys rock, but I don't have an interest in... Tell me your founder story. There's too many founder stories. It's not for me. The world does not need any more founder stories because it's also not a conversation. It's somebody who's not a professional storyteller telling a story drunk on a podcast. I don't think anybody... I just think this makes sense for Substack because that's who their audience is. I don't want to hear it either, but I think that if they're going to do this, this makes sense. And Substack, just like everyone else, whether you like it or not, we do have to pivot to short form video clips. No, totally. I think it actually is smart and makes sense and is like this sort of... i don't i don't i mean if video is the thing and you've already got the subscribers like why not give it to them and see what happens it's no it's not you know what i mean it's not there's not really a high risk involved no i guess no no and they got you gotta you gotta get in you gotta start playing the game you gotta start playing yeah we have to start playing the game so we're gonna film a new how long gone Today, I think the next time you're in LA, which is not too far from now. My video editing skills are improving. My Premiere Pro skills are improving. I might be hitting up one or two of you bros for some green screen tips. This is interesting, actually. it's not that hard i've opened this fully and it's it's a little bit of a combo of sort of like a cbs sunday morning or seth meyers thing and also it says what the tab is like the way the lunch with the financial times and the sunday says um which the last one i saw sent to ed cummins because it was killing me a guy took him to mcdonald's which I thought was so sick because I've never seen that before and I've been reading that column forever. And I'm sure somebody's done it before, but I was like, this is a real flex to take the reporter from the FT to McDonald's for your talk. Yeah, suck it, FT. Just kidding, you guys are awesome. Suck it, FT. And congrats to Shane Smith from Vice launching his new social media outlet and podcast where he's going to report about...

the news in but not like how your dad watches it's unbelievable but but i like i like that tweet because it said um he he wants his new the new vice news platform to be a brand partnership vehicle oh i mean look at the thing is i appreciate a kick out of that yeah that's what i was gonna say because but i also admire the honesty of like oh i'm doing this to make money the same way he famously needs money he needs a lot of money he doesn't have any money but Somebody who needs money is also going to say something like, hey, I really need money. And you guys know it. Versus like, oh, I just really love doing a video where we copy this other video. What if we lay down on the therapist chair and I interview you and there's a puppy there and we can do something with our hands? I like puppy. Puppy cute. All right. How long gone? Thank you for listening, Jason. Enjoy your time in London. I know you're seeing. A friend of the show, Shad. I'm about to go hit Shad and Ben. Good old Chef Ben, who was on the pod not too long ago. Oh, the goat. Shout out to Ben. Shout out Ben and Shad. We're going to go grab a little pregame meal and then off to the O2 to see Taemin Pala with special guest Dua Lipa. Are they coming to the show? Yes. yeah nice shot will go to any show i like that the thing about shot that's so intoxicating is that he can party and he'll go to anything and he's always got a good attitude it's it's it's truly it's infectious like i can't he has a he has a real thirst for music and culture and hopefully that never leaves his innocent little body that's the thing that's because we used to have that too and it's gone yeah long long gone new we got new charlie at midnight guitars are back fingers are crossed rock on rock on then i can't wait to see how rock hey i don't i don't listen to charlie i only listen to rock music that's i mean that's all about to change because you can have both now just rock and roll thank you for listening uh jason have fun and uh i will uh talk to you later

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