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One free box combo with the purchase of another box combo. All right, so your baby daddy got to buy one, and then you get one free. Yeah, but you also have to be a registered card-carrying member of the Caniac Club to redeem this value. Okay. This is obviously a sign-up. They're trying to get your data. They're getting your fucking email address. On Mother's Day. Mama want the data. Give me the data, bitch. What's the last four of your social? I'll give you an extra piece of bread. Okay, so you get... You get a free Texas toast if you give them your social. That's a nice deal over there at Raising Cane's. I didn't realize Raising Cane's. Obviously, this is sort of a religious affront on the Chick-fil-A. observing Sundays off for the good Lord. Raising Cain said, it's Sunday. Mama got to eat. Mom comes before God if you ask me. But this feels like a day for Cookout or Ryan's Steakhouse or something a little more down market, I would say. You said Ryan's Steakhouse? Raising Cain. I don't know about who Ryan. Ryan's Steakhouse is a place we used to go to after church occasionally. Income tax hit. I go into Ryan's Steakhouse. I say, bring me Ryan. It's a buffet-style restaurant, but the highlight is a soft-serve machine that you're able to operate on your... It kind of feels like a little bit of a soup plantation of the South. Oddly enough, the most plantation part of the country. I've never been to soup plantation either, but I imagine... It's a feeding trough, and then you have the soft-serve machine. I'll never forget the first and last time I went to the one. In, in Gatwater village way back in the day. And I saw this family and they had this little fat kid and the kid took his little fountain drink cup, dumped out his Coca-Cola. Hell no. Hell no. And he filled the whole thing up. He was looking back at his parents who were just like not even paying attention to him. And I looked at him and I was like, do it fatty. He's probably not alive anymore. He filled up the, he filled up the whole cup. He filled up the whole like, you know, 24 ounce.

Wow. Big gulp cup with the soft syrup just kept on coming out. That kid was so happy. He wasn't even stoned. That's crazy. We don't know that. I guess we can't prove that. Yeah, we can't prove that. But, yeah, happy Mother's Day to all of our listeners out there. And, you know, we'll be celebrating, of course, tonight with my mom at famed Decatur Institution Athens Pizza. AP, Audemars. a black family classic well we got to get into the Audemars because I was talking to Mike Nouveau and he said Mike Nouveau said broke boys are eating with this swatch with the swatch club he said finally you're you can afford an ap is what he said to me actually he's firing shot i come to him head bowed asking for information about this collaboration i'm seeing all over twitter and mike nouveau pulls out his nine millimeter hits me in the in the fucking left leg and the right leg like bro come on i'm just asking questions bro i came to the boss yeah come on mike we're trying to work with you not against you and sending shots like that you don't want it bro you don't want it i but i said to i i mean look this is a good opportunity for you You can enjoy your little AP, no hoes. They ain't got hoes in Geneva, just watches. It looks like you who famously claims that you can kind of wear anything and pull it off and you've done it successfully with Yeezys and a Kurt Cobain Supreme shirt so far. I'm thinking maybe I'm going to have to dip into my savings and it's time to spend $300 on the pink AP swatch. For TJ, it's going to be chaining day over in Glendale. We're going to see how far you get with this big boy on your wrist. Okay, okay. I need to look at the colors on offer. We've got lemon, orange, pink flamingo, lime, electric blue, black, and cloud white. This is a tough one. Are you thinking pink? Pink seems a little too on the nose. I have to go the road less traveled, and I think it's going to be limelight, which is sort of like. I like that you think you have a choice in this. I'm the buyer, bitch. I'm buying this shit. Chris, one thing to know, like any swatch, the band and the face are sort of interchangeable. It's a combo game at this point. Okay, so if we're doing something real sick, we get the X swatch and put the AP.

AP pink straps on it. Oh my God. At this point, I'm just going to get real actual AP straps. That's nice. The Royal Oak on the X-Watch. That's nice. X-Watch. Step your little edge money up. Bridge 9 message board ain't ready for Jason pulling up with the X-Watch AP combo. Yeah, they're more into ARs than APs over there. This is big because it seems like the watch community is upset about this. You know what I mean? But I think that... Obviously, for a brand that is Audemars, which is... Let them get upset. They're playing in the 0.00001% of people that are purchasing APs new, let's say. I think this, not to put my Oren hat on, but this does feel like a smart exercise in brand for... both Swatch and AP. And I don't think this will negatively affect sales of $100,000 watches at all. I don't think so either. The diffusion line typically just makes the real brand even more aspirational. Mike Nouveau said this is worse than H&M Margiela when Miss Shapes was popping. Damn. He's got a point. He's got a point. But I'm interested to see what actually happens with it because I think that it feels pretty – like it just feels smart to me. I don't know. As a person who hates G-Shock, this feels like a better option. This feels like a better option if that's where you want to play. For all, also, I mean, can you imagine the guys going crazy right now that have cause home furnishings? Can you imagine what David Cho is doing right now? Oh, my God. Yeah, he's got every color added to cart because – And also really the interchangeability of the Swatch. Oh, you have to buy them all. You're introducing a Swatch to a whole new market because more people nowadays are familiar with the Audemars than the Swatch nowadays just because of whatever Destroy Lonely is rapping about while he's wearing a leather diaper. So nobody's rapping about Swatches. Swatches haven't been popular since we were in diapers. yeah this is this is good for the swatch world good for the ap world and that interchangeability you know right now i was talking to somebody last night who uh at a wedding i dj'd new york times reporter and he was talking about how he made a documentary about legos people that are like professional lego makers back in college and i was like oh you were so before your time because i feel like nowadays every parent i know

you know, every autistic parent I know, their kid is like a Lego fucking, you know, they have a room in their house just for Legos. Bro, you can get the, you can get the Mies Vandero, like you can get the, the real ones, you know what I mean? It's, it's, it's a. So, so all the, you know, that autistic, I want to build things and create custom one-offs and color mixing. And you know, this goes on this and I'm going to represent myself. It's a great time to get that creativity flowing and get your unique piece flowing at an affordable price. Okay. So if anybody from AP or Swatch is listening, please send me a link to purchase. I'll pay full price. And Jason is contractually obligated to post on Stories and Grid. I don't like this deal. You got to pay and I got to post. I got to pay. You got to post. This is what you have to do. You kind of have to invest in yourself. You know what I mean? As a content creator like Oren, you got to pay. pay to play yeah exactly i'm like i show speed when it comes to buying this watch for you this rivian is a write-off bro it's a business expense exactly i'm gonna review it i'm doing this for i'm doing this for you bro this is car and driver uh yeah i i was i was taken aback by that all right so congratulations to emily and david the couple that got married last night um and i was hoping i wanted to move this podcast up a little bit so that I would get the prime hungover. I wanted a 10 a.m., but I wasn't going to push it. You want a big bro with one eye open still? Yeah, with one eye open. I could have done it, to be honest. I could have done it. I should have done it, to be honest. I'm sorry about that. I thought you were busy. No, I didn't. Your little crisp brunch. I didn't offer. I didn't push it because I thought it would be disrespectful, but you're saying you were up and at them, and you had already had a mimosa and a Miller Lite. Yeah, yeah. This hoochie daddy been up. I got two yoga mats moved into. in my room at the Nine Orchard. I was trying out these pushups where every time you go down, you spread your arms like Jesus on the cross, and then you go back and do another pushup. Have you seen this? You spread them out. Your chest is touching. You spread your arms out. You bring them back. Yeah, you go all the way down, chest on the floor, and then you spread your arms out completely without lifting your chest up. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Whatever mobility shit. And then you go back and then do a pushup.

And I saw these guys doing it on my phone. And I was like, I'm going to give this a try. Did it feel good? I did. Feel good? I feel pretty good. I did 16 and then I stopped. Yeah. I did something fucked up today that I wished I wouldn't have done. I felt compelled to do a track workout because I'm next to, you know, I'm pretty close to a high school. I was like, you know what? I'm going to go do a little track workout. Got my little program. I was like, yeah, this will be, you know, something light. 72 degrees outside is beautiful. And I am. I'm feeling it. Let me say that. What is a track workout? I mean, you warm up, you do like two laps, and then you do some leg swings and like high knees and shit on the football field, and then you hit the run at a quote-unquote comfortably hard pace for six laps, and you do four 200-meter sprints, and then you finish with like an easy jog mile. I mean, it was fun, but I was out on a track alone. A little coochie blaster over there. Yeah, I was on the track alone, and it was, you know, besides a couple of fatties playing softball. That was kind of it. The Joe Budden podcast, you're never really alone, though, Chris. Actually, I have to listen to music when I run. Listening to a podcast when you run, unless you're doing something long, feels very weird to me. I don't know. A lot of people do it, I know. It's for those people who it's all about the notes you don't play. You know what I mean? It's for people who can't just play the regular, I'm just going to run and listen to, you know. If you can't run and listen to early Fall Out Boy. by Taylor Swift's favorite lyricist, then I don't really know what you're doing. What's the point of hitting the track, really? I need some more, you know, because running, it's not like jazz. It's a lot like Fall Out Boy, right? and their common time signatures if you think about it i mean i think the issue i think the issue with running is that and music is that it does if you're like my heads tell me that it'll spike your you know if a song comes on it's super upbeat and you like it it's hard it'll it'll change your pace a little bit if you're not a pro it makes the little carrot getting dangled in front of you look a little more yummy but i'm going on this i'm going on another satisfy trip

to arizona on thursday and i don't know what we're i don't know what we're going to do i know what you're going to do i saw the brief you're going to do 250 miles and so yeah dude i saw i saw i started following the coco donut the 250 mile race instagram and the last finisher was one i almost started crying guy was probably my dad's age everybody was there screaming for him two guys having to basically carry him over the line it was it was beautiful finna cry finna cry honestly it was beautiful he's no longer with us yeah he did pass i've never been to ari i've never been to arizona though so i'm pretty i'm excited that way huh never been welcome to arizona duck Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture, repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. You can search for a tasker based on cost, skill set, availability, and past client reviews so you know exactly who's showing up and can have confidence that they know what they're doing because taskers have assembled over 3.4 million pieces of furniture, completed 700,000 home repairs. handled 1.5 million moves, and the numbers are just going up, Jason. Yeah, throw a little money at the problem. It's not so expensive. And that job that you really don't want to do is something that another person out in the world is very good at doing and would gladly do it in exchange for a little bit of money. So when life happens, your to-do list grows. Get ahead of it now and get $15 off your first task at TaskRabbit.com or grab the TaskRabbit app using promo code

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like long distance running culture. I guess I would assume because of the- Because Arizona is a literal hotbed. The weather is probably pretty good year round, I would assume. I guess that's why athletes live there. Consider the altitude play as well. Yeah, no, I think that's a big part of it too. I think it's a big part of it too. But all right, so you're feeling fine? How late did you stay up? No, not feeling fine, not feeling fine. I stayed up probably until two, probably until two. But I started drinking at like eight. Did you get into the packet at all or was this all natural? This is all natural. This is Nati. I developed some allergy-related sinus issues in the last few days just with all the international travel, late nights, butter and wine consumption, lack of everything that I need to ground myself. Lack of everything? Just a general lack of everything. Yeah, the nasal passages. There was a road closure. Traffic was being diverted to other holes. Well, I'll tell you one thing that will clear a hole right up. A couple bumps. Knock it right out of there. Put a little water in the nose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do have an aloe. nasal saline rinse that I got from the DR. That's Duane Reade, not Dominican Republic. You're saying aloe, the yoga brand, is making... Oh, I didn't know that. No, it's aloe with an E, bro. Aloe vera. Oh, I didn't... Aloe verga. You put aloe vera in your nose, bro? Yeah. It's a nasal spray because your nose... I ain't never heard of that now. I ain't never heard of that now. The nasal... You've had a saline rinse in the nose, surely, but, you know, I got to keep my... All my sinuses wet. dripping you know what i mean i gotta keep my my sinuses on aquafina okay so it's so it's feeling better or worse but although but i did hear um other people last night were mentioning that they had cocaine that they believe was made out of ground up angel wings is how good it was wow uh i've never heard that uses is a descriptor is the

pack they procured it or they they were there they they procured it it was sourced okay okay yeah i mean i believe it's crazy to me that you as a nightlife dj when you heard that you your sinuses aside you couldn't resist taking a little nummy or something well the problem with i don't know djing on coke is not good for me because when i when i dj it's like my add stim out kind of you know you've made fun of me for tapping that q button i don't make fun no i'm not making fun of you that is a signature move that i like i'm not making i'm not making fun i want to be very clear okay sorry i'm projecting you're right you're right i'm projecting and carolyn will often like to mimic my cue tapping as well like oh djing so hard tap tap tap okay all right well next time she needs a package picked up but you're you're busy how about that how about that how about that oops i was so busy tapping my button i didn't hear the doorbell yeah some some guy came from knocking on doors from world net or something but i was in the sauna so i told him to cruise back later i didn't really um yeah so so basically cocaine With the DJing, I end up getting too in my head. I get too flustered. Basically, I'm already kind of up on the decks, so I need to kind of come down. You're flying from the high of performing for a rapt audience. Well, there is that, but also I'm not the kind of person, I'm not the Ricardo Villalobos type of person where you just put on a 12-minute song and then you just have a conversation with your friend, dance around, have a cigarette. You know, I'm thinking about what song am I going to play after the song that's going to play after the song. You know, I'm getting this. I'm testing it out. Do these songs sound good? Was it a turn up? Was it a turn up environment last night? It was a turn up environment. It went from, you know, it had a good pace to it. The wedding had some kind of Soviet homies. There was a little Soviet contingency with some of the elders. David's family, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. So did you get into your Soviet classics bag? I did. He sent over a handful of tracks and I had the hardest time because he sent over Spotify links. And they're all in Russian or Ukrainian or a Soviet language of some sort. So, you know, we got the Toys R Us backwards R. You know, we got all kinds of unique symbols that, you know, the yen dollar sign is in there. Yeah, yeah. It's letters that don't belong together. You know what I'm saying? So the funny part was I literally had to, I couldn't copy and paste text from Spotify into. like the search bar to find these songs to download them. And I also don't have the keyboard or the ability to type each of these letters out. Bro, I told you, I gave you back the Russian laptop that you let me borrow. I gave you back the Russian MacBook. Russian laptop sounds like a good name, like a mysterious Drake song name. Yeah, Russian laptop, 3AM in Russia. Speaking of Drake, I mentioned that Drake should have called his album Stick Season or another rapper the Noah. Noah Kahn album and I found out what stick season means. It's the season in between autumn and winter where, drumroll, there's a bunch of sticks. He brings up sticks a lot. We're going to get into that. So you had to get on. So basically what I had to do, it seems like an easy thing to do. You just copy and paste. But Spotify doesn't let you copy and paste the song, title, or the artist name. You can copy and paste. the release date the track length you know just like dumb facts or whatever but you can't copy if it just says the beatles i can't select that and paste it if you drag it it sends a url the url doesn't have any info so i had to literally screenshot each track on spotify copy and paste it and slide it into chat gpt for it to translate into english so i could google these songs well here's the but here's the problem i'm having because i thought i thought famously all of your stolen music was from russian websites funny you bring that up because normally when i i get a playlist of like here's the wedding songs i'm like all right 50 cent best french you know spice girls this whatever it is i go and

you know i'll go and download it i'll try to find it on soul seek or whatever and you know if i can't then i'll rip the mp3 or whatever but all these songs you type it into google and it just brings up a russian website that has a button that says download and get the perfect 324 like russian people they're like bro we we don't share files we we don't we don't sell files we give them we bless you with the files damn it's like vodka that's because there's no rule they're they're like they have so much going on over there that they're like we don't we don't care about somebody pirating mp3 files what the talking about that's actually three files are like property of of society yeah we don't it's not something you could sell now is okay so would you play this i imagine the old heads went crazy they were going crazy they were liking it there was and that's i was telling i was telling emily and david this this is my favorite part about DJing a wedding is the ethnic dance music section. Yeah, of course. It makes my life easier and it's a win-win for everybody. So for me, I get to play like eight songs I've never heard in my entire life, don't know how to play them. So it's fun trying to figure out how to mix them into each other. And everyone, all the old heads in the crowd are like, respect. Thank you so much for playing the music of my people. I'm going to show out. I'm going to do all the cool dances. I'm going to have a cigar in my hand. I'm going to turn up like a boss, you know, take the jacket off, got the suspenders. I'm geeked out. And then all the, you know, regular people our age who have never heard Ukrainian Eurodance classics from 1991. They're all like, oh, this music is different and fun. So I'll play a Persian wedding. I'll play Armenian wedding. I'll play a Russian wedding. It's a win-win for everybody. And the whole club is just like, this music is fucking sick and turnt up. So everyone just rages. That's great. It's win-win-win. And then also that eats up, when you DJ a wedding, sometimes you got to DJ four or five hours. So that little rock block of communist trap music, that eats up a good...

20% of your total time. I'd rather play communist trap music than, you know, arcade fire or whatever. You know what I mean? If it's a gun to my head, that sounds pretty good to me. That's great. And on that note of eating up that whole five hours, because, you know, it can be tough because the crowds at a wedding, it's not just like a nightclub where it's just like we're going to party all night. There's hills and valleys. We're coming down. Now the pizza's coming out. We take a break. We're doing the cake cutting. You lose and bring the dance floor back many times throughout the night, and it can be a little scary at first if you haven't done it. And I was thinking about that Mike Tyson quote, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the nose. That's right, yeah. It's very similar to DJing a wedding. because every every time the the bride and groom will send over their playlist and it's like these are the songs that we love and you know define us as a couple and you know he proposed to me in antigua to this one and you know i got bit by a spider in the maldives and that you know this reminds me of that you can't really play all of those songs because nobody else has a connection to it. You just got to play Robin again. You can send over that Lou Reed track, but I Got Better Off Alone is on the back burner. It's just going to come out. I see what you're saying. Because everyone's drunk and getting silly. I kind of like it. Yeah, I think so too. I think it's fun. Did you go out after the wedding or were you done? No. I was going to go to public record, friend of the show, Louise Chen. And from Chen TS was DJing there with this girl Moxie. One of the greats. One of the greats. But I was just, you know, I was beat, man. Just fucking beat. Just, you know, standing in the same place for a lot of hours and drinking martinis. It'll take it out of you. So I just went back to the crib. Passed out. Didn't even have a 3 a.m. bodega sandwich. Kind of proud of myself. I'm proud of you, too. Three's late, but sometimes you got to do it, bro. Because I didn't really have dinner. There's some chicken breasts I ate at the wedding. It was delish, but I didn't want to fill up on the platter before I'm about to bust it down. But I woke up and I ordered my Juice Vitality delivery.

Love and the juice vitality. Do you order from there? I don't even know what that is. Just some shit I've seen on caviar, but they got everything you need. They got all the smoothies, the fresh juices, the cold brews. Where is it located? Do you know where it is located? The lobby of my hotel. I don't fucking know. A man bring it to me on a bike. I have no idea. But it can't be that far from me. You should be in the delivery zone on caviar. Actually, though, that's the fucked up thing about all this. It's a little bit like they'll deliver anything anywhere now. The rules are off. It's not like it used to be. So it's kind of like this is what it's going to be if somebody wants to take like an Uber driver. Like if you want this ride, you can get it if you want. Yeah, if you want to pay for it and you want to wait, like, okay, good for you. We're down. You want to pay $470 to bring this Katz's Deli to, you know, somewhere in Delaware? somebody will be like, yeah, I'll do that. That's like, yeah, actually, no, I saw that there's this, sorry for interrupting. There's, there's like a, a task rabbit style app that I saw an ad for an, an advert for in London. And it was, um, basically it's kind of like a task rabbit, but it's like a bulletin board thing where you post a job and how much you're willing to pay. Yeah. And then, you know, people who are sort of on the brink of suicide are able to accept that offer. And then, then, and the, the, example that they were using was there somebody was offering 20 quid to come pick up the dog in my backyard and mow the grass so like you're thinking so i'm i'm wondering like these are people who don't let me hear that do not let me hear that wow these are people i mean which is so cool and i wonder and it has like a little like kind of gambling economy energy to it like definitely i mean i'll do it for 23 and like 21 50 yeah that's what i can do you know like are we're gonna like wage you know negotiate over 75 cents for you to come over to my and then also if any of these tasks involving are involving like a strange person entering your your home and property

These are people on the brink of death. Someone's going to be like, yeah, 20 bucks to clean up a backyard full of dog shit and mow the lawn. I don't do dog stuff. I would mow a lawn for 20 all day. Mowing a lawn for 20 is just, yeah, that's pretty standard stuff. Obviously, a London lawn is not going to be, depending on what neighborhood. Unless it's the cricket pitch, of course. It's not going to be sprawling, I would assume. It wasn't at Plum Sykes' house. At the Met, we were having dinner before the GQ party, and my friend Sam was like, yeah, actually, I bet on Polymarket that Frank Ocean wouldn't be at the Met because I knew for a fact he wouldn't be there, and I won. Not crazy, but enough money to be sick. That was easy. Yeah, I think about that stuff sometimes where there's information that I know a little bit like that, and I always wonder, When you fully do know, confirm that something's not going to happen, or we do know that we're about to bomb a country tomorrow and someone mysteriously bets $900 million that it's going to happen, if I have that locked information, I know that Frank Ocean's not even in the country, what's stopping you from betting your life savings? You know what I mean? I mean, nothing, really. Nothing. But then how come nobody ever does it? I think everyone has, in your mind... Without thinking about it, what's the dollar amount that you would put on it? $1,900 is what I thought of. Yeah, like $1,000. I mean, it's just silly. But why not $10,000? Yeah, you're right. I mean, I know. I'm never going to do this. This is something that I'm absolutely not going to do. I think it's because that 1% chance in the back of your mind that if you lost $10,000 on some bullshit like this. you might jump off of a fucking yeah yeah you're gonna be mad your chick gonna be mad everybody gonna be mad at your ass i'm jumping off the golden gate but it was his fucking shoe in i didn't know he caught a flight what do you want me to do uh i um i wanted to talk about phoebe bridgers um because you know she's she's back and

i was thinking she's doing these yonder case king my yonder case king so phoebe phoebe is there's there's a new album and unfortunately for me it seems to be space themed because she's doing these pop-up shows in um Roswell, New Mexico, she did Roswell, New Mexico and Lubbock, Texas, which are both like, they both have famed alien stories attached to them. And these are small towns and I was thinking- Take me to your dealer. I was thinking yesterday, I was like, this is actually, imagine if you're trying to get a fucking Cortado in Roswell, New Mexico. You know what I mean? If Phoebe Bridgers is in town. There ain't nobody to serve you, bro. The whole city shuts down. There ain't nobody to serve you. Anybody? I mean, dude, it's bad. Yeah, the milk options are not going to make you happy. There's no service workers left in fucking Lubbock, Texas if Phoebe Bridgers is playing for $300. But I'm hearing, so she didn't let you bring in cameras. Obviously, it was a Yonder Pouch comedy show style thing. But then there was also a, you can't bring pen and paper, which I thought was so sick. to say no pen and paper because you know her fans are definitely moleskin ass number two pencil ass fans who would write down her lyrics and then you know tell us about Bo Burnham on Reddit for the next three months before the album comes out which I don't like that I think that if you care so much to bring in a paper and pencil to write down these lyrics she should let you because that's a It's an analog... I think it's funny. ...dedication. I think it's all funny because her fans are so cucked. She could literally be like, wear one shoe and shave your head. And they'd be like, all right, whatever you say, mother, we'll be there. Like, it doesn't... Charge you $1,000, shave your head, get a tattoo, pierce your nipple. All right, no problem. I'm in. Yeah, the only way men can be in attendance is you have to show proof of your vasectomy. Kind of like the... When you get the... That's how you get a free Raising Cane's meal on Mother's Day. for the fellas but because I was thinking like what's worse you know not being allowed to bring in a piece of paper and you know journal your thoughts and maybe some lyrics that stuck with you at the emo show which seems like a national pastime for indie musicians I think that should be not only allowed but celebrated what's what's worse or more cucked that or you know showing up front row and have you know setting up your

your Uno card game and your knitting thing on the front of the rail, and then as soon as the show begins, you are filming the entire thing with yourself in it. You're not enjoying the show. You're not listening to the music. You're only there to make it about you. What's worse, that or just sitting in the back with a piece of paper diligently scribbling down lyrics about Bo Burnham's dick? How about this? I'll let you bring in paper and watercolors if you would like to paint the scene, but I'm not going to let you write anything down. I think that's a good compromise. Obviously, that's choosing one creative medium over the other, which I hate to do. And I'm sure Phoebe hates it as well. But then today, these black and white photos came out of her in the lab with Maddie and Antonoff. Some friends and some enemies. Also, Bo Burnham in the lab, too. Oh, you know he's cooking. Famously a musician. Yeah, he's the A-Rab music of McNally Jackson. But I'm saying, people are saying that the album is very, you know, she's playing harmonica. It's very folky. I did hear some of the Brandon Flowers that I was talking about, his soul album, and it is also leaning country-ish. And I'm just saying that it's Chris season, baby. I'm eating. All these motherfuckers. We got Rostam with the pedal steel. We got Phoebe with the harmonica. We got Brandon Flowers with the full Merle Haggard. This is Chris season. We're back, baby. Chris moves culture. I'm just saying to you, bro. This is it. The pedal steel. If you play pedal steel, Colin, my friend Colin that plays with Katie and Jay. If you're Sandy that plays with Jay, this is your time. You've got to get your social going. Let's get some deals going because you are going to be in demand. Everybody's going to want the pedal steel. It's one of our greatest instruments. I've said it before, and it seems like the music industry at large is really catching up, and it's going to catch on this year, Jason. And who knows? What if Drake, what if there's pedal steel on Iceman? We can't be sure that there's not.

We can't be sure that 40 didn't call in some Nashville heavy hitters. We don't know. It's true. We have a week left. You know what I'm saying? I saw Morby play this surprise show, the small show at Lucinda's. You already know what's going on. You already know. He's got saxophone. Yeah, 40 was sending the album in for mastering. They finally finished it, and then they scrapped it all and got Big Thief in the studio. They're going to restructure most of the second act. You know, it was good, not great. So we sent Drake down to Durham. He's going to sit with Brad for a little while, kind of figure out what to do. There might be a His Golden Messenger feature. We don't know yet. I would love to see 40 and Brad going blunt for blunt. Dude, honestly. That's your versus. That's my versus. No, honestly, I just was like, well, after blah, blah, blah. We'll do one in Durham, one in Toronto, one on the bridal path, one in Durham, bar for bar. Let's see who wins. I mean, I, I just think it's a, I just think it's a good sign overall for me. You know, it feels good right now. So is this, is this a recession D indicator? Great question. I mean, I, I wonder, look, if Iceman comes out and it's a smash, it could put a hurting. on on the pedal steel return people might not notice it as much if i'm not screaming it from the mountaintops you know um pink mountaintops if you will but uh i don't know if um i don't i don't know what's what's in the water you know i mean i don't know what it is i think um well like i was saying before about how people really feel the need to make things about them and you know when when people are becoming musicians instrumentalists you know, a big part of what they're doing or, you know, even a standup comedian or whatever, so much of what they're doing is for social media audiences. And I think those instruments, the pedal steel, the banjo, blah, blah, blah, that style of picking is sort of pick me behavior, pardon the pun. So, you know, nobody wants to just be a regular old musician. Like no one's going to care about my drumming unless I'm doing.

the gnarliest drum solo ever or you know i'm not just going to be a really good guitar player i'm going to be like what if i played my bloody valentine but it sounded a little bit like that you know and it has to just be some pluck and shred and like look at me do my thing look how i made this thing about me we need more people you know everyone's saying like we need more plumbers and electricians we need more rhythm guitar players and drummers that just stay in the pocket and shut the fuck up stay in the pocket not no sleep token bullshit not no what if we did a drop d on this primus thing and this is how i agree play your part bro just play your part It ain't about you. I don't care that your vocal range is seven octaves. Well, talk to your boys, Greta Van Fleet, that video came out of them. And I was literally, I knew that people hated them, so I think I never really listened to it. Shocking stuff, man. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative, but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools. So those future graduates can find me and, you know, I'm able to accept quote unquote donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money.

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instagram and you're like oh wait like i that's that new charlie song and i really i actually like this a lot you don't realize like i don't realize necessarily the video is really good new audio clip that you made charlie a minute 55 is giving audio clip you know it's it's very short sure but i i like it and i think it's like i i i like how polarizing it is too i think it's like it's funny that people just cannot lose their fucking minds just lose their minds well and george is in the video You know what I mean? Which is nice to see. George on drums is how God intended. She could have hired somebody, but why buy the milk when you get the cow for free? You know what I mean? Yeah, we've got rock at home, babe, and it's just George shredding on the fucking skins, man. We've got rock at home. No, there's got to be somebody else we can hire. No, no, we've got rock at home. Imagine being George. You're just waking up. You're making your little pour over for a spliff of the day. And she's like, babe, I'm making rock music. And he's like, what year is it? I've been doing that for like years. And now suddenly that's kind of my fucking thing. Here we go again. All right, fine. I'll be in the video. It's interesting to see when things like this happen, how people who just don't know. like just a random person who's just like, listen to this new song versus somebody like you and I, or, or, you know, or a Coscarelli or whatever, like people who pay close attention to music and culture and trends and blah, blah, blah. And, and the way different people react to it. And, you know, people like us, everyone's very like skittish and like, you know, what does it mean? And what is the, you know, what is this, how is this shaping the culture? And then other people are like, that's the song where it goes like, uh yeah yeah i mean i do think that every yeah i do think that we are like when i actually yesterday when i was getting ready for you know putting my playlist together carolyn was like oh can you like on one of your songs tonight can you like have it do like that charlie effect and i was like what do you mean like auto-tune and she's like no like have a song where it's like i'm like yeah sure if that's what you want that's what you want we could throw the filter on it i think um

the the to me the irony is you know you never know if charlie's being serious for trolling are you making fun of yourself are you making fun of the world are you you know is it earnest is it not or is it a wink is it not and i like that the song which is like the dance floor is dead i'm making rock music but ironically that's the the song it's sort of like three sections of perfectly sampleable chunks of sound that can easily be remixed into the dance floor filler song of the summer oh don't worry you know which is which is so smart because you can like i'm a rocker i'm making a rock album i'm gonna do a rock tour and now i have you know the next 18 months sorted out and then everyone else is just gonna go on ableton and and fruity loops and make amazing club remixes of all of these, you know, you can get three different songs out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Harrison's Harrison's got his thinking cap on for sure. Harrison's going to shred this one. Harrison do that with the, you know, Dizzy Rascal bonkers mashup with this one? I would do it if I had the time, Harry, but I just don't, okay? You got a six-hour flight this week, bitch. Let's go. Like, let's, come on. This is it. This is it. Nothing I'd love to see more. You got your little, why don't you pull out your little, don't you have one of those little, when you see the real heads on the plane and they got the, what's the shit they bring to the plane? The MIDI? The little keyboard? Oh, yeah, the little keyboard. That's really what you're really trying to get, pussy. That's broke hoe behavior to me. You're a real head when you have the little audio interface, just a little. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, can't you just plug your headphones into the headphone jack? Like, nah, nah, I got to go XLR. Sorry. It's just different. It's also, it's been, bro, our boy, our boy Jake Shane's gotten to getting body shots again, fam. And I can't. Body by Jake. body by jake i mean look he's he's posting shirtless selfies working out the aloe gym he's working on his body and he i mean look casey musgraves i tried to get her how long gone they were basically like that's cute but we emailed you about another client and we're not gonna you know they try to play game they try to play games and i was like look i'm sorry we we got it casey musgraves we we love obviously we're fans of hers here the new album is pretty good jake shane asked basically asked her about a lyric that forced her to explain time zones to him

And he is getting, I mean, this is all, this guy can't win, man. And like now people are coming to defend him. They're like, well, that's not actually what he was doing. He was actually, it's like, dude, just, it's fine. He's just, he's bad at it, but it doesn't seem to be stopping him. He can win. And that's why he's not stopping is because. It doesn't matter. He's publicly humiliating himself, sort of. But his core audience and the reason why he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars in brand endorsements every year is because the people that love him, pay attention to him, and are converted by his content also don't understand that lyric and also don't understand what the big deal is about why he doesn't have a concept of how time zones work. I'm sort of fine. They're also confused by that lyric. Well, look, time zones are confusing. I mean, let's get it clear. I have to use a calendar. I got to Google and stuff. Yeah. I guess I just don't understand, like, what people are like, oh, you know, we used to have Charlie Rose and Diane Sawyer, and now we got Jake Shane, you know? And it's like, well, I don't think that, like, I think that is true, but I also don't know if some, I don't know. I just don't think it's, like, there are people doing the same thing that are better than him. I mean, like, we got our man H.H. From Song Exploder coming on the pod this week. We got, you know, Talk Easy with Sam. Like we have Joe and John on podcast. Like we have people interviewing these musicians very intelligently, much better than we do. Yeah, there's people doing the work. It exists out there and those people make money. It gets hits. Those clips do well. But also, you know, so she needs to go and talk to all those people about the process. So all of her, you know, upwardly mobile, intelligent. thoughtful fans can enjoy that and then you know you have to go tap in with jake shane for all of the all of the fan base that you possess that happens to be dumb and that's most of your fan base if you're a global pop star i think most people's that's exactly what i'm trying to say i think most people's fan bases are dumb so i don't know if the diane sawyer charlie rose would work in the same way for everybody like i think that works yeah

for certain people i mean like when joe was doing diary of a song like that shit was amazing i love that i still think about it all the time and it was like this is great it's easy to digest it's like it shows that side of it but if yeah you can't just do that no one can just go do that and it's not and it's not a reflection of your quality of music like no casey musgraves whatever you're doing if you're big enough you have dumb people listening to it because just that's how like do you think snail mail wants to do like a target only like vinyl thing where she filmed no but like hell no enough people buy your records from target To where it makes sense for you to do it because you're just leaving money on the table. Yeah, it's just, I don't think that, I think that Jake, I mean, it's funny that this keeps happening to him, of course. Dumb people, money's still green. Dude, greener, I would say. I would say that it's funny that it keeps happening to him, but I also think it's only working in his favor. I think it's one of those classic things where it's like, sure, a bunch of people we know are like dunking on him on Twitter and his views and wallet only get fatter. Of course. Yeah, and one day Kaya Gerber will come to her senses and leave that man. kaya you don't need anyone to make you look skinnier than you already are yeah when you're the baddest in the game you don't got to sit with jake shane i mean it does make her feel taller weight achieved i think he uh it's pretty funny that variety like basically every time this happens variety really goes after him and people are like all right what's going on like why is variety hanging jake shane to dry every time he misspeaks and it's so it's all so funny yeah but yeah i really think it i really think it all it's only helping him and in that way i'm sort of like If you could roll with the punches and just be yourself and it works, God bless. I can't. No hate here. Yeah. And maybe Jake Shane, he's going to take all that money that he made from all of this content, all the ad sales and rev from those clips going viral, and maybe he will invest in an SAT course or maybe some community college. He'll learn about how the time zones work, the rotation of the earth and things like that.

I mean, when I first heard that song, in Jake's defense, that lyric does kind of come out of nowhere. I did understand the meaning of it. Well, it's a clunky, it's a clunky, it's a clunky lyric. It is clunky, but that's why it's, you know, it's that zit on the forehead. It's calling out. It's saying like, hey, look at me, pay attention to me. So I could see why he might think that this is like a metaphor or a euphemism for something else versus like, you know, the sun is going up. in one part of the world and it's going down in another part of the world just because of how the world rotates and stuff but i hate to defend little jake the shepherd con but you know what are you gonna do not jake shepherd con Ooh, that's going to stick. Sorry, big dog. Sorry, big bro. I mean, if you're like that annoying of a person and you rise to celebrity fame and fortune, you hang out with bad chicks, make a lot of money, do whatever you want, fly private, all that shit, take your lumps. I had to tap in with the gay homies, see who's beating. That's what I need to know. I haven't heard any of the gay homies on who's beating. Imagine him and Sam Smith. In the same fucking Sniffy's chat? Don't do that. Do not take me. Not on Mother's Day, Jason. Don't take my mind there. I'd love to see Jake Shane riding Sam Smith around like a minotaur in that little outfit. Dude, do not. Riding him around the Carlisle. Shane Smith. Shane has a part. Why am I saying Shane? What's Sam? Sam Smith and Shane Smith. Have you ever seen them both in the same room? Something to think about. That's a How Long Gone exclusive. How Long Gone exclusive. That's actually crazy. These are the do's and don'ts of dressing like an anal devil. Dude, that's really, honestly, I've never thought about that. Yeah, I did watch Noah Kahn on SNL last night, and I was sort of, it all is making more sense to me now, Jason. they were good like it's like a real band who can play sure and you know how snl is famously like people suck especially if they're not real bands oh yeah but i i forget because he's obviously 10 years or more younger than us and i'm realizing now there's an entire generation of guys like this that were like raised on boni ver like that is their that is their goat like somber says that noah khan says that

Like it's very interesting that it's like I'm taking Bon Iver and making it like dashboard confessional with like Vermont granola thrown in the mix. And it really works. And now I'm starting to like get it more from a conceptual. Because to me Noah Kahn sounds like dashboard confessional in overalls in barefoot. But he thinks it sounds like Cat Stevens in Bon Iver. Do you know what I mean? Yes. It's like one of those situations. Yes. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I guess if Bone, you know, when we were building with him, we went and saw Bob Dylan and, you know, he's just saying like, you know, basically I'm just trying to sound like Bob Dylan and it comes out like Bon Iver. And I'm sure Noah Cahan is just thinking, I'm just trying to sound like Cat Stevens and Bon Iver. But, you know, it ends up coming out differently just based on your flora and fauna. it's it's just that nice little trickle down and i'm sure there are a lot of podcasts that are awful that are like yeah it's just we're just doing our hell and gone thing you know i just i i was like oh that's just that's what this is like that it's like this is more like This is more like Dashboard Professional than it is anything else to me. It's like a guy with acoustic, you know, obviously it's the same, you know, I think of it as like probably started as acoustic and now he's got a full band, you know, and it's this whole, you know, it's a much bigger thing. But he was good, unfortunately. He was good, unfortunately. And this is sort of part of your little, your folk banjo, pedal steel. Exactly. You know? Yeah, he's the... the version I want to listen to the least, but at the same time, it slaps. A rising tide lifts all boats. Exactly. It's undeniably good for what it is. In terms of it just being hashtag music on its face. Yeah, exactly. You wrote about the Tony biopic. I haven't read that yet, though. yeah on the pulling weeds i was basically just like could you distill that for me please no mistakes it's i mean we've talked about before i think his whole thing is aged really poorly and i think that making a sort of sanitized like hollywood it's like about the part of his life that's most boring

I want to know about him doing heroin and committing suicide. I don't want to know about him learning to fucking dress a salad in Provincetown with Antonio Banderas. I mean, I get it. I think that's probably how people want him to be remembered. You know what I mean? But I think the darkness of him is what made him actually interesting, and this seems like it sort of ignores all of that. Taking a page of the Michael Jackson flick, huh? Yeah, I just don't know. I just don't know. saying they the michael jackson stopping before before he did his his sinister actions they stopped right there potentially setting up you know michael too yeah i mean i think we're gonna get tony too i don't think i mean michael too makes sense because he's michael fucking jackson i think that Anthony Bourdain I don't know if we need two what if they get Aja Argento to play herself now we're talking I mean now we're talking I just I want I mean maybe it'll be good in the role of a lifetime Weinstein's gonna set it all up from Rikers just what he inspired is so funny just like the the way that people like he really did did cause uh more harm than good i would say in the overall as much as i as much as i like the tv show in the time and like the books i think the books are still good i think the books are are his best he was he was the trojan horse he was able to go in and destroy the culinary world from the inside out but i just think that that vibe is it just feels so dated Yeah. And like the whole thing feels very like millennial soaked. It's giving a mustache tattoo on the finger vibes. Exactly. Shannon Sossaman. Exactly. And maybe that's why they've stuck to this period because that sort of avoids that for the most part. You know what I mean? Cause it's whatever the eighties are, you know, I would assume. Yeah. And also we, we, in order for a movie to sell and do well, the, the lead. typically has to be an attractive person in their 20s. Otherwise, it's just financially not going to be approved. And Anthony Bourdain, for all of his ills, he did look cool. For a guy on TV, he looked about as good as you can look. He was giving Mark Bolin? Yeah. He looked cool. He had a full head of hair. He didn't dress stupid. You know what I mean? He's still skinny. I think that... But you're right. Having a Dominique Cessna...

you have to yeah you don't we don't want a 40 year old guy but it's and stavi's in it which is cool yeah it was funny i was talking to my brother about that trailer and he was like it's so funny because he grew up my brother's growing up working in restaurants he's like every single restaurant has that stavi guy in it yeah and the first two weeks it's really funny and then it instantly is like oh this is the worst fucking person we were joking around like it's all fun and games like this guy says funny stuff and calls people names and then two weeks later he like grabs a hostess's ass in the freezer or something like that and you gotta like call the police get rid of him that's that feels that feels very true in this case yeah i don't know i mean i i don't i'm sure it will do fairly well you know what i mean just because he's got so many but i do feel like also it's um Yeah, I don't know. He doesn't feel super remembered the way other people do, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like every year on his birthday. It's not Dylan Reeder. I don't see a million pictures of him every year on his birthday or whatever. Maybe I'm not the only one that thinks it didn't age well, I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, I think it's because the breadth of his work is a TV show that is kind of bad. um you know and obviously kitchen confidential and his his his first book or two those will be infamously passed down but a lot of the content in there is sort of very dated like we don't need like when it came out it was like holy shit don't buy fish on a monday from a restaurant because like oh my god like they're really peeling back like this is all old news now but you know the books are doing well but the show You go back and watch it, and it unfortunately did not age well. It's only interesting to see which seasons he was actively battling suicidal thoughts and drug use versus which ones where he became addicted to jujitsu and was fucking body tea shit. But RIP to the God. Lastly, I was thinking about a new emerging trend. We were talking maybe a year or two ago about

benson boone the the back flipping of it all about how i forgot about boone he's off cycle and you bring him up that's crazy go ahead yes yeah he's busy he's he's doing stuff but And we were talking about how like it's no longer enough to just be a talented person who, you know, does a thing. You know, you host a show or you make music or you're an actor or whatever. You have to do these kind of physical challenges now. You have to do the dance when you're on, you know, the TV show. You walk down the hallway, the aisle. I forgot what show it is. But, you know, you have to do these stunt things and you have to show your like weird skill. instead of just like talking about what you're doing and i've noticed that the women the female pop stars are now having to do their own kind of more subdued versions of these physical challenges whereas benson is very much like i'm gonna do a backflip watch me watch me hey dad watch me kind of thing but we got friend of the show and co-host from the the gq red carpet with us quinn blackwell oh i saw this i've seen multiple multiple photos of her doing she goes on the red carpet and does a headstand but she was doing that for the paparazzi outside of a party yeah so one of them was on the red carpet at the billy eilish 3d tour film release party and then another one appeared to be in the literal gutter in front of the Chateau Marmont, the literal gutter where she does a headstand. So she's in Benson Boone's plate. It's like her version of doing the backflip. We got Olivia Rodrigo doing headstands on the beach. We got Dua Lipa. Every other video, she's showing off her planking abilities and her Pilates shit. Everyone is going inverted. The girlies are inverting for 2026. It's the new trend. Watch the space. I'm not disagreeing with you on that. And I think that the thing when a woman does a handstand. Upside down, bitches stay winning. When there's inversion, there's a chance that a titty pops out. And I think that is what, I feel like that's what they're hoping for, a little slip. Oh, no, you caught me. Oh, that's so crazy. Okay, so win-win for all parties. And to quote Dave Chappelle, come on, titty. Come on, titty.

It's the real, you know, in an AI world where we are altering our face in post-production. We're altering our face with surgeries and injections. We don't know what's real on the body and what's not. You know, you got Lauren Sanchez and Kylie Jenner and all these people. You look at the before and after. These are two different people. You can't trust it. But when a bitch go upside down, all the cards are on the table. You get to see A. Core strength, you can't really cheat that. You can't get core strength in a pill or a needle. And number two, the way that body sits when gravity... come at you upside down. Shit look different. You know what I mean? So that underarm turns into the upper arm. You know what I mean? Damn. Under titty is now top titty. I'll say gravity will come for all of us. That's the one thing. Is that booty sitting because it's in those Truys or is that booty sitting because you've been getting after it at dog pound? Yeah, it's leg day at dog pound. Speaking of ass sitting in the Truys, I saw Zara Larson yesterday at the hotel and I saw the AirPod pop out of her pocket right into the same curb that quinn blackwell put her headstand on what you know that the the classic airpod case lands slow motion on the asphalt dime square you know piss and shit everywhere it's the worst left earpod goes flying 20 feet to the left right earpod seven feet to the right case goes four feet over there and she went over and picked it up and put it back in her pocket at that point charges to the game right no she's a humble queen i like that I like that. Don't send your man to pick it up. But she was keeping all that in the Chewy's. I'm sure she was. Final, I just saw a tweet earlier today that I wanted to read for you before we go. T.I. wife looked like a garlic knot. I don't know. I don't know. If you've seen that before, but I'm in Atlanta. I got tea out on the brain. I just thought that one was pretty funny. I just thought that was pretty funny. I guess there's a variety of pastry case items that she could be mistaken. Garlic knot is particularly cutting, I would say, in the scheme of pastries. Yeah, I mean, if you are just arguing with a person and he says your bitch built like a garlic knot, you have to fight them. It's really funny. All right, How Long Gone? Thank you for listening.

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